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Gargamel

02-07-11 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1592491)

The first qualification given to a PO is never eye candy, it will be recognized by the game and factored into gameplay.

IIRC Commander lets you give two quals to a senior PO but I don't think the game recognizes the second one as a factor in his performance.

However keep in mind that once the "efficiency bar" above a compartment is 100% green it is running at 100% efficiency and putting in more men who are qualified in the relevant specialty will not give you any more improvement in the compartment's performance. If the compartment efficiency is already maxed out, you'd be wasting quals if you gave them out for the sole purpose of increasing it.

A side effect of this is when you promote (and maybe give them medals, but taht could affect fatigue only, not sure). If it took an Officer and 5 PO's plus some seamen to get a compartment to 100%, 8 patrols later, that compartment may be at 120% (with no effect on the game). So it might be a good idea to run < 100% early in your career and let the men grow into their jobs. This will allow you to reassign "extra" PO's as you need.

frau kaleun

02-07-11 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1592497)

:yep:

Yep, I'm pretty sure that if you retain all or at least most of your original crew throughout many successful patrols, compartment efficiency will increase even if you leave the same bunch of guys together in each one. Even a guy who doesn't get promoted gains something in the way of experience each time out, so efficiency tends to increase one way or the other (provided you're not having all your more experienced men constantly replaced by n00bs). Just as it would, I imagine, with a real crew that grows accustomed to working together over time.

desirableroasted

02-07-11 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1592491)

IIRC Commander lets you give two quals to a senior PO but I don't think the game recognizes the second one as a factor in his performance.

It does not.

By the way, another good thing about using SH3 Commander to manage qualifications is that it lets you get rid of qualifications that add zero to the game (helmsman) or little, if any (medic).

Gargamel

02-07-11 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1592120)

How can you have sailors with the repair, I thought it was only the PO, if you did not make your own mods..

I used Commander, I do that so I can keep the sailors straight. I like having them assigned duties. It has no effect on the game, just organizational.

Gerald

02-07-11 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1592560)

I used Commander, I do that so I can keep the sailors straight. I like having them assigned duties. It has no effect on the game, just organizational.

I thought that the picture of the boat, I saw that you had seamen with repair Qualifications, I thought that only the PO could have been so, as I only have.

perky416

02-07-11 03:22 PM

Hi everyone,
I have a quick question,

I am half way through a career, have gave my crew promotions and medals, if i install SH3 commander, will i have to restart my career for the changes to take effect, and will my crew loose their medals and promotions?

Thanks

Gerald

02-07-11 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by perky416 (Post 1592584)

Your crew will retain what you have given, and then start a new mission without any problems.

Jimbuna

02-07-11 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1592447)

I thought using Commander to qualify POs was the point of the thread. :sunny:

Perhaps I missed the point of the thread :doh:

:O:

scunnygsi

02-07-11 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=By the way, another good thing about using SH3 Commander to manage qualifications is that it lets you get rid of qualifications that add zero to the game (helmsman) or little, if any (medic).[/QUOTE]

Does this mean i can take the helmsman qualification off my officers as it has no relevance on the game mechanics ? you learn something new every day

Sailor Steve

02-07-11 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted (Post 1592533)

qualifications that add zero to the game (helmsman)

Are we playing two different games? I have two POs with Helmsman qual, with two different ranks, and when I switch them out the green bar certainly does move.

scunnygsi

02-07-11 06:32 PM

could that be down to the different ranks and thus experience of the PO's ?

Sailor Steve

02-07-11 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scunnygsi (Post 1592752)

could that be down to the different ranks and thus experience of the PO's ?

Possibly. The next time I play SH3 I'll replace him with an ordinary seaman and see what happens.

desirableroasted

02-07-11 07:08 PM

For Scunnygsi and SailorSteve

Qualifications don't matter a bat in the control room. As long as you have officers -- any officers, qualified or not -- you will maneuver as if you had Uncle Karl's personal staff on board. You will dive, surface, turn, put topside watches, etc. as quickly as if you had an elite crew.

Do some throwaway careers out in the harbor... or go out to the North Sea and play with neutrals. You will find you could load out with rank n00bs or an experienced crew and your boat will handle the same.

Qualifications in the game count here, and only here:

Dedicated repair POs and officers.
Your sonarmen and watch officers for their acuity, though yours will always be better.
Your torpedomen, for loading faster.
Some machinists

Don't bother with:

Helmsmen, ever
Medics... lots of threads, but generally say it is of low value
Officers as radiomen .. useless.

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