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Matador.es 01-13-11 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1573155)
I would not worry too much about the Russian Supplied Kilo subs. They are a downgraded Project 877 export types. Its electronics and especially sonar is junk. Their refits (one complete and one in progress) have only added minor improvements (C-801s from 2 tubes, better batteries), but we are still talking vintage late 1970s tech here.

A lot of people like to talk about the Iranian F-14As but remember their AIM-54s are expended and only half are operational. The bigger A/A threat is their MiG-29B Fulcrum-As, which are increasingly dated. For Anti-carrier strikes the only major threat is the 24 or so Su-24 Fencers and whatever F-4s they have rigged to fire the 40Nm range C-801Ks or the 64nm ranged C-802K (very few 802Ks in service). The IIRAF (and IRGCAF) only have about 250 combat aircraft, none of them modern, very quickly they could they could find themselves being overwhelmed by superior numbers of better fighters.

You seem to be well informed (again) :yeah:

Can a C-802 be fired from a 21" (533mm) tube?

Sorry for leaving the jolly roger topic...:oops:

Oberon 01-13-11 08:13 AM

Onyx did good work in the Falklands war as a SpecOps boat but managed to ram a rock and damage one of her torpedo tubes IIRC during one of the missions. Thankfully she's still about and is up at Barrow at the Submarine museum there.

TLAM Strike 01-13-11 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Matador.es (Post 1573249)
Can a C-802 be fired from a 21" (533mm) tube?

The Chinese have a tube launched version of the C-802 (YJ-82) for their submarines. Photos of it came to light last November.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/249...4787912.th.jpg
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(click to embiggin)

But I have seen nothing that says Iran has this weapon, even if they did its max range would be far beyond a 877 boat's tracking abilities. Remember the MGK-400 sonar on their boats is a very basic system, it doesn't even have LOFAR narrowband classification capabilities (all it has for that is some form of DEMON).

TLAM Strike 01-13-11 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcantilan (Post 1571944)
HMS Sealion, from South Atlantic deployment (1987) - 2 daggers for special ops disembark & embark, Argentine mainland.

1987? :o Could someone fill me in on this operation? :hmmm:

Marcantilan 01-26-11 04:22 PM

Thanks all for the answers!!!

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1573539)
1987? :o Could someone fill me in on this operation? :hmmm:

No details available.

However, during the 80´s Argentina and Britain played a mini-cold war in the South Atlantic, including Psyops, EW, air intercepts, intelligence gathering ops and you name it.

For example, Argentine Air Force carried various missions to test RAF response times and radar coverage. In response, RAF Phantoms and latter Tornados intercepted dozens of Argentine flights.

Same happened underwater, as usual...


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