Well I went with OM for now and enjoying it.Will get SH 3 eventually and give GWX a try.

Honestly, and this is just my opinion, going (or going back to) SH3 is either a labor of uboat love, or a walk down nostalgia lane as a weekend tourist. For all it's touted immersion, i personally find it really hard to go back to.

Maybe its because i've already played it for a couple years (in fact i've played SH3 far more then i have ever played SH4), or maybe it's because while i love WW2 submarines in general, I'm not a devoted lover of uboats. Though, don't get me wrong here, i'm about as read up on Uboats as I am on fleet boats, I'm just not a fanboy.

But whatever it is, something REALLY hinders my enjoyment of SH3. I think its a combination of dated graphics, and really long loading times. With GWX, expect a 5 minute wait every time you load a game. Although, I've always had this issue with SH3 in general. I would sit there and stopwatch how long it took to load a game. Drove me nuts.

These guys keep talking about immersion. I'm not going to start an argument. Instead, I will suggest something I think is vital for immersion - the Das Boot Sound Mod:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1083

And a little fix I made to go with it:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1529

I agree. What keeps me playing SH3 is all the mods, and Commander (of course I'm biased because of the ship names :D).

SH4 with the same mods as SH3 would be a far better experience, and not just because of the graphics. We know that part of SH3's loading problem is the ship files, and the more you add the longer it takes to load. SH4 changes that completely, so if I had a way to name the ships they wouldn't only be named, they would have the proper names for each country, and all the countries could have all the ships and still load faster.

SH4 could be the best of them all if the modders would just look at it. Of course I don't mean you, Ducimus; you have looked at it long and hard and done your part to make it a great experience. I just feel like it's the poor relative who never gets a chance to shine.

That's a social/community issue. I would toss in "modder politiics" as well, but honestly... i don't see that being the case. All the old school modders seem to be done yelling and screaming at each other.

But anywho, i think its a social issue. Fans of any subject, I think tend to be close minded. Being a fan means, if its not mainly about what your into, your just not interested, so whatever it is, simply doesnt exist. For fans of Uboats, the Silent Hunter series is comprised of 2, 3, and 5. Titles number 1 and 4 simply don't exist.

At one point i did try to do , what i thought was some pretty cool stuff. But ultimatly, burnout (mainly burnout), and low community interest lead me to just quit, and drop the ball on that.

Awseome U boat work ducimus.The crewmen using the head is rather funny.

SH3 GWX SH3 Commander Das Boot:DL
SH4 TMO+RSDC nice
SH5 a shoot'em game:down:

well...I bought SH5 first
then...I downgraded(downgraded...mmmmm) to SH4
and then....I downgraded(downgraded...mmmmm) to SH3

A SH5 GWX SH5Commander would be the ultimate Das Boot simulation....it wouldn't be impossible to do it