I understand BUT if we secured the border and made the penalty for being here illegaly harsh(immediate deportation) as well as cracking down on those who hire, they wouldnt be there to do those jobs.

true, but ain't gonna happen.

They say the real numbers are around 30 million illegals here. We would never really know until we give em amnesty.

And this reform they talk about...the word amnesty shouldn't be mentioned. Until not one mexican can cross the border it shoudn't even be talked about.

I saw one illegal girl crying over how she came here and worked hard, going to medical school and won't be able to get a job as a Doctor because she has no SSN. Go to Mexico and use the free education there.

and a nice post to come back on. I agree. It's not the illegals fault. they wanted a piece of the american pie too. Its a dream all men would want. It's the cost cutting corporations and businesses fault. GM did it to Michigan, my home state, by moving to mexico, but they made great earnings doing that. so don't blame the people who came here like our forefathers did, looking for a better life, Blame the greedy business owners who started this epidemic to make more money.

The issue is what it was inevitably to come to: Investors put their money into businesses that will reward them with dividend payments for the business' success. In order to maximize the business' success, the decision-makers in the business must find a way to max out profit and eliminate costs as much as possible. The easiest costs to eliminate are payroll: it costs a lot to pay knowledgeable people a competitive wage to keep them in your employ, and it costs a lot to provide that person with the benefits necessary to keep them healthy enough to make you money. Instead, hire inferior employees at a cheap rate, provide abysmal service, and replace the now-fired employee with another. If you can eliminate the position entirely, or outsource it to another nation for pennies on the dollar, then the shareholders will be happy with the margin and cash the dividend checks.

I've said it for years: You can't expect Cadillac service for McDonald's wages.

What would change if we employed people who were experts in their fields, for wages commensurate with their abilities? What would happen if, instead of sloppily-completed building projects that are then mired in punitive litigation, and instead have a project that is completed with pride and quality?

Sorry, I'm in a rotten, rotten mood.

the problem is is that they don't give a crap anymore. its cheap and easy for them to do this. The company heads aren't combing the streets for a job that will pay enough to feed their family, they're making good money letting the rest of us decent workers starve.