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NightCrawler 11-02-10 10:49 PM

on torps
 
im not a trigger happy person that shoot 4 torps spread angle at the same time, i go after big ships in convoy, untill got bothered by a tribal, last mission sunk 2 tribals and 1 hunt class, there was 1 hunt class left but my crew was irritated and left the convoy, total tonage 43.000 second patrol 1940 with IX boot.

Gargamel 11-03-10 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NightCrawler (Post 1527748)
I always sail slow ahead(6 knots) surface

when day break, i dive till red light blink, charge the boot, and sail till day break, and so on.

it save on fuel big time, if nothing come between, i can reach marrocco with a VII type boot, without using a milkcow

I have to think this is less efficient than running on diesel the whole way.

First, your not storing 100% of the energy (realistically speaking, not sure how SH3 models this). Most modern engines are only like 30% efficient to start with, now you add another set of components (batteries and electric motors) to further decrease efficiency.

Secondly, up until the XXI, U-boats were more efficient on the surface, so running submerged to save juice doesn't make sense.

With the range we have, Wilmshaven to Morocco should be no problem runnign at 7-8 knots. I've been very tempted this career to take a stab at New York in my VIIb. Yeah, i'll have to use the cow in Newfoundland in both legs of the trip, but you could probably make it TO new york on one tank, but not much else.

But I'm not sure how the game models efficiency and such though. And if your talking evading detection by running submerged during the day, well that's another story altogether.

NightCrawler 11-03-10 02:28 AM

main reason
 
to avoid using milkcow will messed up my career, no medals, next mission is patrol grid null.

the only only you get when docking a milkcow is credit.

so doing a mission, and reach that grid and make home is mission complete.

beside i will use a milkcow only in case of emergency

Jimbuna 11-04-10 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by opeks1 (Post 1528793)
Osu, it's just like Yoriyn first said. But if I were you I wouldn't worry about the fuel. What you are going to need is gooooooood batteries. When you want to sail through Giblartar you should rather be positive about that. It's going to be a hard-core there.

Yep...a fully charged battery bank and submerge when you have to (for Co2 reasons)...you'd never get through on the surface.

wolffpl 11-07-10 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NightCrawler (Post 1527808)
so doing a mission, and reach that grid and make home is mission complete.

So if you reach the grid and then return to base "manually" (no using the option "exit from patrol") gives you more renown?.
Because I use this option always (maybe I misunderstood).

Sailor Steve 11-07-10 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1526773)
We really should fix it so you can't do that.
:hmmm:
As an optional JSGME enabled mod of course!
The 'DID' crowd might be interested?

Only if you also fix it so we can steer with the engines. Having the rudder destroyed should not prevent the boat from getting home.

Gargamel 11-08-10 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wolffpl (Post 1531354)
So if you reach the grid and then return to base "manually" (no using the option "exit from patrol") gives you more renown?.
Because I use this option always (maybe I misunderstood).

From what i Understand, there is no renown bonus for steering the boat back into base. From what i've read (and correct me here), it was never coded into the game-engine to account for it.

I usually sail back to a point where I'm in "friendly waters". Not sure if those really existed later in the war though... Then I'll port from there. I feel it's a waste time to sail back if nothing is going to happen.

Jimbuna 11-08-10 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wolffpl (Post 1531354)
So if you reach the grid and then return to base "manually" (no using the option "exit from patrol") gives you more renown?.
Because I use this option always (maybe I misunderstood).

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1531603)
From what i Understand, there is no renown bonus for steering the boat back into base. From what i've read (and correct me here), it was never coded into the game-engine to account for it.

That is correct, the renown for returning to base has never worked either in stock/vanilla or any supermod.

NightCrawler 11-08-10 09:54 PM

Sorry that i missunderstood ya'l
 
When i have a mission, i going to that grid, no matter how far it's, i sail on slow ahead(6 knots) on surface, it takes almost 4 hour game-play to finish..

When you reach that grid you will get points(reown), than another reown, for patroling the grid 24 hours...

when that is done, i go back to europe(close to england) if i have some fish left to use them all, than when have no fish, i return to base, yes it's manualy, i dont hit ESC button and click on finish game... than the whole 4 hours game-play and the reown are gone... offcourse im heading home to port.. to complete the mission, i will hit ESC when im at 20 miles to the base, to dock it...

hatemf90 11-09-10 06:58 AM

According to wikipedia Type XIV boats could supply 400 tons of oil + torpedoes + food. manual says it only supplied oil.

If you believe wikipedia you shouldnt feel guilty if you got resupplied with torps after docking with one :O:.

Akela 11-09-10 11:40 AM

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If you believe wikipedia...
There is no better source of wikiality

NightCrawler 11-10-10 04:51 AM

Not the whole trip surface
 
To reserve diesel, i dive when morning breaks(from red light) to no light, stay under water till red light comes up, then surface, to resharge batteries, till morning break. than repeat over and over.

later in war, you stay under water, unless you wanna shoot down liberators, and when snorkel is available you can charge batteries under water.

hatemf90 11-10-10 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Akela (Post 1532482)
There is no better source of wikiality

thats why I said if :03: I checked some other websites says the same thing.

Trasgu2010 12-21-10 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Trasgu2010 (Post 1527283)
Hy Evreybody!!!:arrgh!:
Acording to the manual of GWX3.0 Gold MOD,pages:78 and 79.What I try to do It´s only refueling my U-boat.
Page 78:"....If you whant to be "historical" then you should limit your resupply operations to historically available items when you dock whith u-Tankers and supply ships."
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/503...mg23102010.jpg

So I´m gonna try what tessa suggested to do:" Just hit the ESC key and choose exit patrol; Capt. Piccard mysteriously shows up in the command room and say, "make it so" and you're back in port."

Thank you all for your help.:up:

P.S
I´m Student so Sorry for my Englis.

Hy EveryBody!!!:arrgh!:
I tried Tessa´s suggestion:" Just hit the ESC key and choose exit patrol; Capt. Piccard mysteriously shows up in the command room and say, "make it so" and you're back in port." But unfortunately It didn´t work.
When you ressuplies your u-boat you resupplies all:Fuel+Torpedos.

P.S
I´m Student so Sorry for my Englis.

Trasgu2010 12-21-10 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NightCrawler (Post 1527808)
to avoid using milkcow will messed up my career, no medals, next mission is patrol grid null.

the only only you get when docking a milkcow is credit.

so doing a mission, and reach that grid and make home is mission complete.

beside i will use a milkcow only in case of emergency

Hy NightCrawler!!
I think that if you use milkcows you do not messed your career because you can resupplie your u-boat almost like if you docked at port:Fuel+Torpedos+Repair your boat+Rewon+Medals....
The problem is that you have to return to your base to have a new mission.


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