Truthfully, who cares what happens in Germany? If the country gets too upity it will be slammed. Beyond that, it, Germany, is not a power and the opinions of its citizens mean very little.

Firstly, you are nitpicking on the use of the words "humanely" and "animal". Alright, I'll change it: "Because animals other than humans aren't able to kill in a painless and compassionate manner." Now I'm not "contradicting" myself anymore so please stop the nitpicking and move along.

Secondly, I'm not humanizing animals (see below). I'm just saying that we should avoid unnecessary suffering. And especially that muslims shouldn't have more rights than westerners (not less either, but also not more).

Maybe I should have used a different word. I'm not talking about human feelings, as in emotions, but about basic, primal "feelings", e.g. pain, stress or fear.
I'm very aware that animals don't have much emotions besides these primal ones, so don't you worry about that and instead start answering my questions and discussing my points;)

Well you still are and im not trying to nitpick as i hate it myself.:DL
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Humans arent animals and the method we kill our food has this narcistic moral relevance only to us.
But as methods go the Halal/Kosher method is more painless than many hunting techniques.
So again, i dont consider it immoral.

We aren't? We posess self-awareness and reason, but other than that exactly how are we not animals?

Too little too late.

You consider that a small difference?

No, it's a huge difference. But underneath it we still have the same instincts and tendencies. We may be superior animals, but animals nonetheless.

Exactly:up:

The method we kill our food has a relevance to animals too. *They* are the ones that have to suffer pain.

Now if the pain were unavoidable, I wouldn't be against it. But the pain is avoidable and thus should be avoided.

You've got a point there. But hunting is often necessary for protecting certain wildlife populations (here in the Netherlands, that's the only use of hunting that's allowed) (you could argue protecting wildlife by means of active human intervention shouldn't happen, but that's not the point of discussion here). And since it's very hard and cost-ineffective to hunt without hurting animals, the pain isn't really avoidable. So not comparable at all to bred animals that are killed in a controlled environment. Shooting a bullet through a cow's head isn't any harder or more expensive than slitting its throat and let it bleed to death.

This is a good tme for Germany to rise up and take what they wanted in 1939. it mwould be easy.

Agree 100%:yep:

What exactly is a "forced marriage" and how does that differ from an "arraigned marriage"

What are the measurable elements of the crime of "forced Marriage"?

When it comes to writing laws, the devil is in the detail. :yep:

Unless it's aranged between the bride and the groom every arrainged marriage should be forced mariage

Can you be more specific, we find ourselves in 2010 and not 1939 :hmm2: