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Originally Posted by Skybird
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The party campaigning is folowing American examples since long.
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I'm assuming you mean that party campaigning is prevalent? Well it's not. I don't remember the last time I saw a "vote for the Republicans" or vote for the Democrats" advertisement. Most candidate ads nowadays don't even mention party.
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It is pretty much focussed on single faces, not programs. Every party, in federal elections, names one candidate for chancellorship, like you have your parties mentioning just one candidate for president. The campaigns in Germany are not SPD versus CDU. The last one was Merkel versus Steinmeier, and before that it was Schröder versus Merkel.
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And the lower seats of Parliament? Here we vote for individuals right down to the town dog catcher. Yes, their party helps them financially but it's still the individual we vote for, not so much what party he belongs to.
A prime example of this are states where the Lt. Governor is elected separately from the Governor. Nearly always the voters deliberately choose the Lt Gov. from the opposing political party. That wouldn't happen if people always voted along party lines.
The general feeling around here, especially amongst independents is, as a good friend put it:
" Gridlock, the best form of government for the common man."
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I do not see your governments being less detached from their populations.
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Well I do. Europeans on this forum for example practically wear their detachment from their respective governments on their sleeves when compared to their American counterparts. When was the last time you read a European actually defend their governments actions? When was the last time you read an American do that here?
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And economic lobbyism in your politics is even more prominent a distortion of electroal decisions, than it even is in Brussel - and in Bru7ssel it already is a Kraken.
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Not sure what you mean here. Something must be lost in translation.
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Do not mistake some printed intentions on some 200 year old pergaments, with contemporary realities. And do not allow them clever leaders to play on your emotional, patriotic strings to make you sing their tune. ;) The problem is not the American or German constitutions, but that leading politicians in both countries do not give much for them, and think that it is okay to violate their spirit and meaning if one finds a way to bypass them so that one gets away with it. In the past, you have often said you think I am anti-American. I am not, I hold the American state design in much, much higher esteem than you maybe even imagine. It's just that I see the very wide gap, the wide abyss between how it was meant to be, and how it actually is. The difference between idea, and reality. That difference is immense. And my criticism of America - almost always is aiming not on the founding ideas as the basis of the nation, but the actual state of things.
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Well I appreciate your sentiment but I firmly believe that in the game of politics perception is reality. As long as we continue to believe in the system we keep our hands in the game, and the politicians must therefore continue to respond to it. When they don't you get what will happen this November.
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