IGD....c'mon, TMO is harder, but can't detect anything at anytime. Follow the right guidelines you should be able to pull off an attack without giving yourself away.

Nothing could be truer. :up:

"Passing thermal layer"
Sweet sweet words.

You should try surfacing and duking it out with your deck gun and AAA. That is one sure way to get aquick resolution to the problem :haha:

I've tried that... usually ends with a dead deck gun crew and hull damage.:damn: Best bet is to stay under until your bow or stern is tilted thirty degrees up or down from flooding, sinking faster than an LA class emergency dive. :har:

Trust me: i know from experience. :D