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mookiemookie 09-10-10 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1490071)
My thread, no one asked you to participate.

By making the thread, you invited every registered member of Subsim to participate. If you can't deal with criticism (as you've proven in the past to have problems with) then don't post.

CCIP 09-10-10 05:49 PM

General Topics? More like Commander-in-Chief Topics :88)

Oberon 09-10-10 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1490112)
General Topics? More like Commander-in-Chief Topics :88)

:har::har::yeah:

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:56 PM

The ideas must be good or there wouldn't be so much opposition.

I hadn't made a judgement, I only posted them. I guess I should go back and re-evalutate.

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1490111)
By making the thread, you invited every registered member of Subsim to participate. If you can't deal with criticism (as you've proven in the past to have problems with) then don't post.

Then don't complain when called a troll, or any other silly term. I only do it because it comes at me. I have learned from others. I won't accuse of others if they don't accuse me. Fair?

antikristuseke 09-10-10 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1490122)
The ideas must be good or there wouldn't be so much opposition.

Your logic is unassailable, good sir, but I must bring this fact to your attention: You disagre with me, kind sir, therefore you must be mistaken.

ETR3(SS) 09-10-10 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1490122)
The ideas must be good or there wouldn't be so much opposition.

I hadn't made a judgement, I only posted them. I guess I should go back and re-evalutate.

So I take that as a no on the more information so I can make an informed opinion for myself then?

Tribesman 09-10-10 06:27 PM

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The ideas must be good or there wouldn't be so much opposition.
Thats the logic Fred Phelps uses.:doh:

The Third Man 09-10-10 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1490139)
Your logic is unassailable, good sir, but I must bring this fact to your attention: You disagre with me, kind sir, therefore you must be mistaken.

That is critical thinking by definition. Thanks for the laugh. :woot::har:

The Third Man 09-10-10 06:30 PM

In case you missed it...................the ideas not spoken

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Place a firm cap on overall federal spending, and limit future year-to-year growth to inflation plus population growth. Federal spending is on an unsustainable trajectory because we lack a mechanism that forces Congress to live within agreed upon spending limits. A binding cap will force lawmakers to make the tough decisions required to get us back to fiscal sanity. <LI nodeIndex="1">

Require the Big Three entitlement programs—Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security—to live within firm, congressionally approved budgets. If Congress is ever to control spending, it must end the era of open-ended entitlements. Currently, Big Three spending is on autopilot—increasing automatically year after year. Entitlement spending must be brought into the congressional budgetary process. Lawmakers should establish a five-year budget for these programs and include protective mechanisms, such as triggers, that will automatically keep spending within the congressionally approved limits.

Revive federalism. The federal government has usurped the states’ traditional role in areas such as transportation, education, health (especially Medicaid), homeland security, and law enforcement. Washington must cede vast swatches of its policymaking authority—and the funding that goes with it—to states willing to reassume leadership in these areas.

Limit the unsustainable growth of welfare spending, and require recipients to give something back. Aggregate welfare spending now approaches $1 trillion annually and does more harm than good. Congress must treat all 71 means-tested welfare programs holistically, as a discrete category of federal spending, and cap annual year-to-year welfare spending growth at inflation. This will force Congress to consider new approaches that could actually help the poor surmount poverty. To this end, Congress should require able-bodied adults to treat a portion of certain welfare benefits as loans to be repaid rather than as an open-ended grant from taxpayers.

Pay federal workers wages and benefits comparable to what their counterparts earn in the private sector. Federal employee compensation is far too generous. Total compensation—hourly wages plus benefits—is 30–40% above that of comparable private sector workers. By bringing federal compensation in line with market rates, Congress would save taxpayers approximately $47 billion a year.

Do no harm. Tax increases, especially those loaded on small-business owners (our most productive and entrepreneurial individuals), are counterproductive at any time. To raise taxes during a recession is a recipe for crippling economic growth and job creation. Maintaining the tax burden at its current level is the least Congress should do.

Encourage investment and job creation. Reduce the top tax rate on corporate earnings—currently the second highest among all industrial nations—and let businesses immediately deduct investments in new plant and equipment. These two changes to the tax code will unleash the most productive investment and create the most private sector jobs. Specifically, lawmakers should align the top rate on corporate earnings to those that prevail in our 30 largest trading partners—approximately 25%.

Liberate employed seniors from payroll taxes. As part of the broader effort to reform entitlement programs, seniors who wish to work beyond retirement age should be freed from the burden of paying Social Security payroll taxes. Employers willing to retain or hire these older workers also should be exempt from paying the employer share of the FICA tax.

Invest in peace through strength. A robust military is the surest way to deter aggression and reinforce U.S. diplomacy. To accomplish this, the Pentagon procurement holiday must end. Congress must refurbish our armed forces, especially our depleted Navy fleet and vital missile defenses.

Tribesman 09-10-10 06:33 PM

Its gone from political sillyness to just plain spam.:down:

The Third Man 09-10-10 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1490165)
Its gone from political sillyness to just plain spam.:down:

Yeah that's the word I was looking for....spam. But they continue to be ideas which counter our current Obama wreck-onomics.

The Third Man 09-10-10 07:40 PM

Ideas bump

TLAM Strike 09-10-10 07:42 PM

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Place a firm cap on overall federal spending...

Invest in peace through strength. A robust military is the surest way to deter aggression and reinforce U.S. diplomacy. To accomplish this, the Pentagon procurement holiday must end. Congress must refurbish our armed forces, especially our depleted Navy fleet and vital missile defenses.
How do we limit federal spending while procuring new equipment? The price of new weapon systems continues to rise because the DoD has a limit on how many they can purchase with their limited funds.

The companies contracted to build the things are producing sub-standard items. Remember the Deepwater patrol boats? The San Antonio?

The Pentagon is submitting nonsensical procurements and requirements. Look at the LCS, a high speed ship designed for inshore combat that has no armor to defend against RPGs and other low tech weapons. A requirement for a (currently unbuilt) ASW module but no on-board sonar to use it. High speed waterjets that prevent deployment assets from the stern ramp at said high speeds. A helipad sufficiently big to a MH-53 but a structure unable to support it's weight.

And the companies again are producing idiotic prototypes to complete for the production model. The National Security Cutter? The builders had to add another engine to get it up to the required speed because the new composite hull was too heavy.

mookiemookie 09-10-10 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1490240)
Ideas bump

Now you're just spamming and being annoying.


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