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antikristuseke 08-27-10 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout (Post 1478555)
It would mean that way had he not put Hitler nor Machiaveli after the sentence :DL.

For example
Had he written

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Lord Jesus Christ

it would mean entirely different than

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolvie Hitler

but we all know Christ never said that :DL

How would a sentence change its meaning depending on who authored it?
I mean the quote itself is pretty much just a paraphrasing of "the only thing that matters is winning", not exactly ideal guideline to live a compassionate life by, but it would sound just as cold and uncaring if the saintliest person on Earth said it.

Takeda Shingen 08-27-10 08:18 AM

It seems to be a combination of some kid trying to be funny and the yearbook advisor not checking the content and layout before sending it to press. I used to teach high school for a brief time, and you have to really watch those kids when it comes to stuff like this. They tend to think that they are both very funny and much smarter than you.

Castout 08-27-10 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1478595)
How would a sentence change its meaning depending on who authored it?
I mean the quote itself is pretty much just a paraphrasing of "the only thing that matters is winning", not exactly ideal guideline to live a compassionate life by, but it would sound just as cold and uncaring if the saintliest person on Earth said it.

No actually the author life is what gives meaning to the sentence.

It may not be obvious but hardly anything in life does anymore :DL

There's a very big big difference had those words been spoken by Christ or Hitler.

But I'm not going to explain it maybe in time you'll tell the difference ;)
Besides explaining it takes away the fun deciphering it...and it's beside the point..as it was just an example.

It would also change meaning had Lance Armstrong for example been the one who said it.
Or even some unknown student.

TLAM Strike 08-27-10 09:40 AM

Lets play: Identify that quote!

"Anti-Semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism."

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."

"Let us pray in this hour that nothing can divide us, and that God will help us against the Devil! Almighty Lord, bless our fight!"

"It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the ideas which are accepted facts to us today."

"Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty."

"Maybe you're afraid of sinking. Don't think about it. If you don't think about it, you won't sink. If you do, you will."

"Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed."

"Ideas do not need weapons, if they can convince the great masses."

"I am confident that the day is not far distant when the light of peace shine again."

cptroyce 08-27-10 11:47 AM

Just another wonderful example of the "clueless" generation America is churning out :damn:

The Third Man 08-27-10 11:57 AM

The fact that the quote was correctly attributed to Adolf Hitler makes me question the faculty oversite. Was there any?

GoldenRivet 08-27-10 12:01 PM

serious lack of judgment putting that into the yearbook.

good quote though ;) just made by an infamous person

Gerald 08-27-10 12:08 PM

This what a mistake, which was due to negligence,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1478772)
serious lack of judgment putting that into the yearbook.

good quote though ;) just made by an infamous person

and this meant that a newspaper got info, and then gave it one second,under normal circumstances, so things do not happen, then you have tight control on what should be printed and carefully checked several times, it is an example of ignorance.

Takeda Shingen 08-27-10 12:36 PM

In this whole mess, it is the yearbook advisor that I wouldn't want to be. Imagine that meeting with Administration:

Administration: Why is there a quote from Adolf Hitler in the yearbook?
Advisior: One of the students must have put it in.
Administration: And why didn't you catch it?
Advisor: Because I didn't look.
Admisitration: So we have angry parents and egg on our faces because you didn't bother to proof the book before it was sent out?
Advisor: Umm......yes. But this year's book will be great.

Gerald 08-27-10 12:40 PM

True,in fact he have a hard,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1478789)
In this whole mess, it is the yearbook advisor that I wouldn't want to be. Imagine that meeting with Administration:

Administration: Why is there a quote from Adolf Hitler in the yearbook?
Advisior: One of the students must have put it in.
Administration: And why didn't you catch it?
Advisor: Because I didn't look.
Admisitration: So we have angry parents and egg on our faces because you didn't bother to proof the book before it was sent out?
Advisor: Umm......yes. But this year's book will be great.

scenario in front of him, and clearly there will be given to someone who is responsible for the adm.

Factor 08-27-10 06:31 PM

Ok, off topic, but I always got my yearbook at the end of the school year. These yearbooks were handed out Thursday?

The Third Man 08-27-10 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Factor (Post 1479096)
Ok, off topic, but I always got my yearbook at the end of the school year. These yearbooks were handed out Thursday?

That you remember that is interesting. 30+ years latter I don't even have my HS yearbook. But I am certain career academics would have reviewed and censored the book.

Task Force 08-27-10 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cptroyce (Post 1478766)
Just another wonderful example of the "clueless" generation America is churning out :damn:


HEY! I resent that, I am part of this clueless genaration... and, err... I must agree.:har:

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Originally Posted by Factor
Ok, off topic, but I always got my yearbook at the end of the school year. These yearbooks were handed out Thursday?

Hmm, maby this school is arsebackwards? Maby they accidently said!

Hello stidents im you HISTORY teacher, now lets learn about WW2!
First the allies, Adolf Hitler, Tojo, and mussolini. and On the EVIL axis, we have Churchill, US (F*CK YA), thos Commie bastards!


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