if we cant se it how do we know it exists? i just blew a hole of that theory, hah!

Yea it was just a dream. Was just joking around

As for the black hole I think we do can see it just not in outer space where it's black :D

When light is sucked right in and never gets reflected back then it would mean the black hole would be just that: black.
At least that's how I understand it

Well well smartguy, you just had to ruin my day, and i felt so good about myself for almost busting the black hole conspiracy.

In other words, you are probably right, or atleast the scientists working with this.

From what I've read and seen on documentaries, Black Hole isn't black. Only the very center is black, the outer edges are quite colorful not to mention the stream of particles it's shooting out (check the pic on previous page by Vendor).

Dowly is on the right track, while the black hole is consuming matter its visible by the effect it is having on said matter. If it is consuming no matter than it becomes invisible to the eye once again, although you could still detect (in theory) it's gravitational distortion by gravity lensing a star behind the black hole (basically the star's light bends around the black hole so you can see it.)

Detecting them from their Hawking Radiation is another possibility although I'm not sure if that has yet been accomplished. :hmmm:

Doesn't matter same thing happened to me with below

:damn:

I'm pretty sure I heard on tv that it hadn't actually been done yet. I know its true because Morgan Freeman was the one who said it. You cannot argue with a man who looks that wise.

-on a sidenote, you made my "favorite people of the week" list by linking that cool "Atomic Rocket" site in the XV-stealth-thread-thing. Fascinating stuff, even if most of the equations are over my head. Fun Fact: You can survive in a hard vacuum for about 90 seconds. I spent 28 years not knowing this.

If Morgan Freeman said it, then it must be true- the man played God, Two Presidents and the Director of the CIA: You have to trust him. :03:

One of my favorite websites. It changed the way I look at Science Fiction. :up:

Seems Hollywood has spent the last 28 years not knowing it either :p2:

And of course, there's an quiz on how long you can survive in a vacuum:
http://www.oneplusyou.com/q/v/space_vacuum

(It probably ask if you want to register somewhere, but just click the 'not thanks, take me to the results' button on bottom-right corner)

48 seconds here. :shifty:

If there's any truth to the things there's written on the result page, I think Event Horizon got pretty close to it when that young guy blew himself out into the space. :hmmm:

1:29 here. ;)

One of the few movies or TV shows to get it right. There was a Star Trek TNG episode that did it right once a long time ago.

My view on "Black Hole"
 

is that it is a pure coincidence that they went by the name "black" In our references, we know little about these phenomena, and then there is room for speculation,on the planet we live in (Tellus) will experience a much longer future no one can imagine,and if it ever comes to our attention (which I highly doubt) the data will likely be composed of entirely different values and materials if they so-called "black hole".

Think the Black Hole name came from the method they use even today to look for them: watching for black areas in space that look 'funky' and see how the planets/stars behave there. If they seem to have irregular paths and go faster at certain points of the path, it's safe to assume there is an Black Hole there that is pulling the planets/stars to such an odd paths. :hmmm:

This of course just my assumption how the name came to be, might be wrong. :yep:

As for knowing about the BH's, I'd say we don't know much, but we can assume a lot. We assume there's an huge mass in the center that pulls nearby objects to it, we also can assume that it is more of an grinder than an bottomless pit as it shoots out particles when it's "consuming" something, as to chew and spit it out again. I'm quite sure I saw/read from somewhere that they have a pretty good idea on how BH's are born too (big star imploding or something like that).

Again, this something I pulled from memory, might be wrong. :yep:

Not at all Mate!
 

This is exactly what my first thoughts respond to what they so-called "black holes" stands for,and as you say we do not know much and what we know is that all goes so fast according to the knowledge we have, which is not even a drop in the ocean,and I think there never can be reached perhaps, in theory.... :hmmm:

Aye, right you are. I love space, I love watching towards the stars on a dark cloudless sky and try to figure out what the heck all this is. Mind boggling, but cool as hell.

Check this video, it's from the user I posted earlier "Spacerip". Show's some footage of stars/planets orbiting a Black Hole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOW-NYPEp84