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Tribesman 08-18-10 02:12 PM

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Most likely a falling out between the Dr. and 'management'.
Yep, its another example of her making silly comments which mean sponsors pull the plug, which means management won't pander to her anymore as she is there to make them money not to lose it.

AVGWarhawk 08-18-10 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1471074)
I think it's a bit disingenuous to try and blame racism in the US on the abolition of slavery here, when racism was a primary factor in justifying it in the first place.

AFAIK slavery in "ancient times" was not primarily about race or ethnicity. In the US, it most definitely was. A black person was considered inherently inferior to a white person and therefore it was not only "okay" but perfectly "natural" for them to be bought and sold like chattel by any white person who had the means to do so.

I believe it is safe to say anyone subject to slavery is seen as inherently inferior.

frau kaleun 08-18-10 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1471090)
I believe it is safe to say anyone subject to slavery is seen as inherently inferior.

They are certainly in an inferior state, which in some cultures where institutionalized slavery existed might be temporary and due primarily to factors having nothing to do with any presumed "inherent" inferiority of their race relative to the race of their masters.

With slavery as it existed in the US, the presumed pre-existing inferiority of black folks relative to white folks was the primary factor in their enslavement and in the justification of same.

There is a subtle difference between:

"Circumstances have made you my slave and you are now inferior to me"

and:

"Your race/ethnicity/etc. made you inferior and therefore I am justified in enslaving you."

It's the second one that applies to the history of slavery in the US, which is why I contend that attributing any lingering racist attitudes to resentment over its abolition is nonsensical at best.

Bubblehead1980 08-18-10 06:31 PM

Another victim of the PC crowd.

Tribesman 08-18-10 07:10 PM

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Another victim of the PC crowd.
Another victim of their own stupidity.

Platapus 08-18-10 07:32 PM

I wonder how low her ratings were? Her deciding to retire sounds a lot like damage control. There is no way she would voluntarily give up the money she was making from radio.

nikimcbee 08-18-10 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1471330)
I wonder how low her ratings were? Her deciding to retire sounds a lot like damage control. There is no way she would voluntarily give up the money she was making from radio.

That's a good question. Not really a fan of the show, but thing thing that I disliked the most about her show was she had some of the dumbest callers on the air.

The funniest call I ever heard was on her show ( I was channal surfing). It basically went like this: The caller caught her husband "taking care of himself":oops::haha:. The woman was shocked and the husband retorted that he wasn't getting enough from her. The woman wanted to know if they should get marrage counceling. Dr Laura proceeded to yell at her for not taking care of her man.:har: I would have paid money to see the look on the caller's face when she got that answer.

Bubblehead1980 08-18-10 08:40 PM

In reality, not the PC world that has been forced upon us, that I see losing it's grip slowly, what she said was not bad.Now I barely know about Dr Laura, just heard of her a few times until this issue came up.The word is all about context.

I recall a classic lecture in one of my law classes my sophomore year in college.The Professor was fed up with students saying "The N Word" instead of using the entire N word.Prof went on to give a lecture about context and actually recited infamous monologue from Pulp Fiction as an example of context since he was quoting.Then he went on to say now if you are using that word to insult someone or a group of people, that is entirely different.A couple students complained but nothing came of it because he was right and luckily the admin at my college realized this.

I heard the recording of Dr Laura and she was right on, she was not calling anyone "that word". This PC crap is censorship and most americans are sick of it, looking forward to it going away, although it will take a while.

Platapus 08-18-10 08:47 PM

Anyone here old enough to remember Lenny Bruce?

"Please, don't take away my words". :yep:

jumpy 08-18-10 08:49 PM

hmm, slavery - lets not forget that many of the black african peoples who were sold into the slavery of the white man were sold to the white man by other tribes and nations of black africans. Not simply a case of the white man kicking back because blacks were deemed to be merely 'inferior beings' (that came later). Blacks were enslaving other blacks in the dark continent (as referred to by europeans because it was unknown territory, not because of its denizens skin colour) long before any white men arrived on those shores.

Slavery is about money first and foremost. Race only comes into it after it's accepted for one group to exploit another for pecuniary gain.

In order to perpetuate this, spurious reasons of inferiority and intellectual retardation and many other facile ideas are used to establish vested interests and prejudice as fact.

SteamWake 08-18-10 09:47 PM

Meh way I see it she wanted to go out with a bang.

She got a little pop... /shrug

FIREWALL 08-18-10 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1471309)
Another victim of their own stupidity.

Your so right. :yep: And I consider you an expert on the subject. :haha:

nikimcbee 08-19-10 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1471441)
Your so right. :yep: And I consider you an expert on the subject. :haha:

:haha::03:

Weiss Pinguin 08-19-10 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1471309)
Another victim of their own stupidity.

Something we agree on :yep:

CaptainHaplo 08-19-10 05:12 PM

If your going to form an opinion - at least have the integrity to be informed by facts....

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/13...her-own-words/

The above is a transcript of the incident.

As for her "retiring" - she actually is not doing so. She will remain on the air (as currently planned) until her current contract expires at the end of the year. At that time she will be leaving radio while pursuing other avenues (read - books and such).

Was she right in doing what she did? Were she a black woman using the word on the radio it wouldn't be a question. Did she use the term in a derogatory manner? No she didn't. She was making a point about a double standard and the innate hypersensativity that some people of "color" have about it. Yet she should have addressed the caller's husband lacking in intestinal fortitude to deal with it. So did she go the wrong direction - yes. Did she take the opportunity to make a "political" or "social" statement when she should have been doing something else - yes. However, was she wrong in her assessment or point? No.

Get over it. After all - she insulted whites too in that rant.


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