Keira.

Digitally enhanced than I see...

I'll look into that...cheers :up:

Glad I popped back into this thread. I finished "Clash of the Carriers" last night and need to head on over to Amazon to order new books. :yeah:

ahh well, thanks for that anyways. Is there a movie based on this story if so whats it named, is it Winter war some have mention here?. If so there should be one out with english subs I might see if i can grab.

"Winter War" follows the JR23, there's no mention of this particular event in it, tho.

http://www.amazon.com/Winter-War-Tal.../dp/B0000646UN

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl98L6ZsX3A

Ah yep i changed my post same time you must of been answering it. Will try and find Winter war. :up:

Please do. It's great, if a bit slow at first. If you liked Stalingrad, you'll like Winter War.

Hear the man. :DL

Just like "Das Boot" you want to go with the long version of Talvisota which is over 3 hours. The character introduction/developement is much better in the long version. There is also a TV Version which is over 4 hours long, but I am not sure if you can get it with subtitles.

I have a copy of "Tali-Ihantala 1944" here, still haven't watched it though. The film didn't have a big budget, however it looks quite decent, it seems that the filmmakers valued authenticity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tali-Ihantala_1944 (you can find a link to the movie site at the end of the article)
Plus you can get it for a bargain price here, I paid roundabout 5 Euros for it:up:.

"Tali-Ihantala 1944" was pretty crap. The actors were from popular soap operas who couldn't act naturally. If I'd have to compare TI'44 to Talvisota, I'd say TI´44 is like U-571 and Talvisota is Das Boot. Very disappointed by the movie. :nope:

oh, ok, that's a harsh judgement maybe I should only watch the battle scenes of TI 44. However I think that the movie doesn't rewrite history like U-571 - so no small group of Finns who win the war by themselves and convince Stalin to give up and dance to polkka... :yep:

I think it takes an Finn to see the bad acting as when I watch movies in other languages than english or finnish, I can't tell how natural the acting is. It did have some great scenes to it, but forgetting the bad acting, the whole documentary style of portraying things didn't really work, atleast for me. Where Talvisota does better is that it makes you follow the war from one point of view instead of jumping around different units like TI'44 does.

Of course, this is just my opinion off it, if someone is thinking of getting it, I'd advice to read some reviews and decide yourself. Like you said, you can get it cheap nowadays, so no harm done if one decides to get it for 5€.

:salute:

well, 99% of soap actors are crap, worldwide, easy to spot, easy to make fun of :03: - but trash movies are another thread... just a quick tip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BC..._Kurtaran_Adam

As the Winter/Continuation War is a unique piece of history and not covered very well in Central Europe, I am looking for any kind of info on it - even mediocre films are better than nothing - we have exactly 2 german books who cover this subject :cry:
If you happen to stumble upon the Talvisota TV-series with german,english or swedish subs, I would be happy if you let me know about - according to this shop there are no subs included: http://www.discshop.fi/shop/ds_produkt.php?lang=&id=71449〈=se&subsite=movies&& ref=

Found this one from Amazon, uncut 195min version imported from S.Korea. Korean & English subtitles:
http://www.amazon.com/Winter-War-TAL.../ref=pd_cp_d_1