thanks for the direct answer.

Anyone remember seawolves expansion for SHIII ?

IIRC that wasn't produced by Ubisoft. :hmmm: (I wasn't reading subsim's forum in 2006, so I'm not sure about it)

I mean ...maybe there could have some sort of add-on for SHV made by another company ?

Just sayin...

There aren't many precedents for that, although one recent example is "Over Flanders Fields," the WWI conversion for Microsoft Combat Flight Sim 3. Some people (like me) bought CFS3 just to play Flanders Fields, so it was a good way for MS to leverage an out-of-date game. Ubi isn't at that point yet with SH5, since it's only been out for a little while.

Maybe that could happen with SH5 after the initial sales period ends and it hits the bargain bin (if it hasn't already), but I doubt it. Microsoft at least has some history of working with outside developers with its flight sim series. The Ubi corporate culture seems very different with respect to their games, and their interaction with customers (although MS isn't winning any fans lately with their awful Windows Live gaming service on PC's) .

Anyway... I think what will happen with SH5 is that we'll get a user-modded SH5 that will be reasonably good by the end of this year (if not sooner), But it will still be limping along with some annoying aspects that can't be fixed, either because they're hard-coded, or it would just take too much work, like new sub models with full interiors, different animated crew, etc.

As some (Ducimus) have argued, there's a lot of legacy junk in the game engine... bugs or just design flaws that we keep seeing over and over. Once the modders finish the final big SH5 supermods it will be fun to play, but it won't ever be what it could have been if Ubi had started from scratch with a new engine, an enough time to do it right; instead of just milking an old product for a last dying gasp of revenue.

Considering the subsim market as a whole... SH5 is taking up all the "oxygen in the room" right now, because at least it looks good. In a few years, after SH5 starts showing its age and flaws (and maybe after a move to full 3D view gaming), someone else will come out with a better WWII subsim. There will always be at least a niche market for this type of game, because like flight sims, it's a perfect match for the computer as a game platform.

Wasn't Seawolves a collection of mods that were stolen from this site, repackaged without giving any credit to the modders, and then re-sold as an unofficial add-on.

Or am I mixing that up with something else?

JCC

I believe that you are right John - I remember the arguments at the time.

Indeed it was the case...

Damn! now I feel too old! :haha:

Sh!t

I was unaware of this. :-?

That would really suck. I wonder what the legal situation would be in case you publish your mods under the GNU public license?

i beilive that beer is better:rotfl2:

:nope::nope::nope:

The GNU public license allows you to distribute 'free' software for a fee. Free means freedom of use and distribution and access to the source code if you want it and the ability to make changes and then distribute that as well, not free from cost.

Nope, you're right...wine is better.:D

I think Sh5 has alot of potential to be a good game, but that campaign has got to go, the graphics are outstanding, and the level of immersion is amazing.

my only serious gripe is the lack of crew management options (if i don't want so-and-so on my boat, well, im stuck with him) the campaign is too cut and dry, and the lack of different flotilla's and boat options. Im not sure how much can be modded and fixed, but im sure given the time and the neccicary tools, the modders will continue to do amazing things to this game. To the modders: its said ever so frequently, but I hope you know, you guys rock :rock:

And i prefer dark beer and light wine.

:nope::nope::nope::nope::nope::nope: off topic

thank you for your answer and we dont care what you prefer.