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Castout 06-03-10 05:13 PM

Very pleased with the news.

CA don't disappoint us!

Takeda Shingen 06-03-10 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1410715)
Hmmm, not sure I like the idea of the Hero units. Still, imagine the mods, as with a lot of games these days, the mods will save them for the grognards amongst us.

Nice trailer though :yeah:

One day...one day I will have a machine to play Empire and Napoleon...one day... :damn:
I'll be able to have multiplayer battles against that flying pig too :yep:

If any of the eras of the Total War series lends itself to 'hero' units, it is the Sengoku period. The samurai tradition was extreemly individualistic, where accomplished samurai would even go so far as to should the names of the warriors they had slain upon entering the battlefield, sort of a resume if you will. The objective was to find a suitable opponent as to ensure that their honor remained intact.

I am also very excited about this news. Shogun was one of those titles that changed the the world of gaming.

TheSatyr 06-04-10 02:14 PM

I have been waiting for CA to do this for years now.

I don't mind the hero units,since they were in the Shogun "Gold" edition. I just hope they leave out the Geishas this time.

Spike88 06-04-10 03:27 PM

I never played the first STW, so fill me in on what's wrong with Geishas?

Dowly 06-04-10 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike88 (Post 1411710)
I never played the first STW, so fill me in on what's wrong with Geishas?

Too much clothing.

Takeda Shingen 06-04-10 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike88 (Post 1411710)
I never played the first STW, so fill me in on what's wrong with Geishas?

The Geishas were, for all purposes, unkillable assasin units that could only be dealt with by another geisha. Otherwise, they could only fail, not die. All you had to do was build towards the capability to train them and then run around assasinating all rival Daimyos, virtually eliminating the need to fight battles and conquer territory.

This is really great new. Looking forward to once again plain as the Takeda clan. I know, shocking.

NeonSamurai 06-04-10 04:00 PM

I didn't mind the geisha too much, but then I didn't abuse the heck out of them. More for strategic hits here and there, like taking out generals before an attack.

Though it was rather a-historical, Geisha were not assassins or spies (or prostitutes) though sometimes kunoichi would impersonate them to get close to a target. I would rather have more realistic kunoichi and shinobi/ninja though.

Weiss Pinguin 06-04-10 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1410715)
One day...one day I will have a machine to play Empire and Napoleon...one day... :damn:
I'll be able to have multiplayer battles against that flying pig too :yep:

Indeed :haha: One day...

Takeda Shingen 06-04-10 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1411750)
Though it was rather a-historical, Geisha were not assassins or spies (or prostitutes) though sometimes kunoichi would impersonate them to get close to a target. I would rather have more realistic kunoichi and shinobi/ninja though.

I agree. I was also bothered by the Kensai and Battlefield Ninja. A-historical and overpowered.

CaptainHaplo 06-04-10 05:00 PM

As long as they don't nerf my Naginata troops.....

Spearmen? Pfft...

Weiss Pinguin 06-04-10 05:41 PM

I wonder if they'll include the Mongol Invasion campaign :hmmm:

Spike88 06-04-10 06:28 PM

Probably as the first expansion.

NeonSamurai 06-05-10 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1411765)
I agree. I was also bothered by the Kensai and Battlefield Ninja. A-historical and overpowered.

They did exist though at least, though ninja battlefield units and kensai on the battlefield were very rare. Ninja would appear on the battlefield for assassination/intel missions in disguise though.

Monks were also nasty as all heck, you could field giant armies of them and just plow through the opposition.


I always kind of wished that game could be modded. Never agreed with a lot of the unit stats.

Oberon 06-05-10 09:42 AM

Mmmmmm....kunoichi...

What, sorry? Kinda lost my train of thought there... :hmmm:

Spike88 06-05-10 11:32 AM

Talk of the last game(which I never played) has me more hyped for this one. :haha:

Although as I stated earlier I can totally see there being a pre-order bonus of special hero units. I can also see them releasing a "Special" edition with hero units, just like they did with Empire and Napoleon total war.


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