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SteamWake 06-02-10 10:36 AM

I dont get all this hatred pointed at BP. It seems to me like they are trying to solve the problem which is more than could be said for members of the goverment whom are trying to affix blame. They (BP) are working hard even while being chastised and threatened with legal actions.

I can almost see BP saying.. okay fine were to blame we will just go out of buisness and let you (the feds) deal with the problem. How much of a financial and public brow beating can they take after all. But the thing is the adminstration dosent have the first clue as to how to deal with such a thing.

I heard today that they are planning to bring in the director of Avatar as a special consultant :doh: Hollywood to the rescue? Please.

Ive heard story after story about communitys that want to help want to do something to help clean up or at least prepare for the worst but federal regulations keep them from doing so.

Lastly I heard that there is another snag... literally.. evidently the saw got stuck while cutting.

OneToughHerring 06-02-10 10:40 AM

Well James Cameron is a bit of a deep ocean enthousiast. Not sure what he will be able to do there though except shout "I'm king of the world!" or something. :)

In Finland some conscientious objectors have been trained to clean beaches in case of a oil spill. Too bad they can't do anything about the Baltic sea being really polluted.

SteamWake 06-02-10 11:24 AM

Here in the us there are supposed response teams that do stuff like pick up tar balls, spread hay around to soak up the oil, things like that.

They have been asking to do something yet are turned away.

There is some fears (rightfully so) that some of these pepole may be adversly effected healthwise and end up in lawsuits etc.

Already there has been claims by LA fishermen whom were asked to help with the booms.

The federal goverments course of action?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100601/...gulf_oil_spill

That will be sure to help.

mookiemookie 06-02-10 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1409569)
the adminstration dosent have the first clue as to how to deal with such a thing.

Apparently neither do the avaricious pieces of s*** at BP.

SteamWake 06-02-10 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1409661)
Apparently neither do the avaricious pieces of s*** at BP.

Well at least their doing something.

You know what gets me is we still dont know the actual cause of the event.

Weiss Pinguin 06-02-10 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1409673)
Well at least their doing something.

You know what gets me is we still dont know the actual cause of the event.

Well it couldn't have been scantily clad women :hmmm:

krashkart 06-02-10 01:24 PM

^^ :rotfl2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1409569)
I dont get all this hatred pointed at BP. It seems to me like they are trying to solve the problem which is more than could be said for members of the goverment whom are trying to affix blame. They (BP) are working hard even while being chastised and threatened with legal actions.

I can almost see BP saying.. okay fine were to blame we will just go out of buisness and let you (the feds) deal with the problem. How much of a financial and public brow beating can they take after all. But the thing is the adminstration dosent have the first clue as to how to deal with such a thing.

I heard today that they are planning to bring in the director of Avatar as a special consultant :doh: Hollywood to the rescue? Please.

Ive heard story after story about communitys that want to help want to do something to help clean up or at least prepare for the worst but federal regulations keep them from doing so.

Lastly I heard that there is another snag... literally.. evidently the saw got stuck while cutting.

Yeah, I'm not gonna bash on BP while they're getting saw blades stuck in the pipes. They are doing something to remedy the problem. Thought that came to mind this morning when I turned on the news was; "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong". It's really looking that way at this point. I'll just keep on praying for the best.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1409673)
Well at least their doing something.

You know what gets me is we still dont know the actual cause of the event.

I doubt anything will come to light until after the leak is plugged.

Platapus 06-02-10 04:52 PM

Seems to me that BP is taking this very seriously and spending serious bucks in fixing their accident. They seem to be trying anything and everything they can to stop the leak.

I gotta wacky idea. Lets fix the problem first and then we can sit around and play the blame game if that is what is important. But in case anyone forgot, this damn thing is still leaking!

Ducimus 06-02-10 05:48 PM

>>I dont get all this hatred pointed at BP.

Haven't even read 90% of this thread and i think i can answer that.

- BP is another big oil company.

- Big oil bent the public over and gouged the holy hell out of everyone while simultainously making record profits.

- Now a big oil company royally screws the pooch, and f*cks over local economy (fisherman, oyster farmers, shirmper's etc) and wildlife.

To your average joe, these guys are fat cats who've done nothing but screw people over. So what's not to hate?

Oberon 06-02-10 06:17 PM

BP do seem to be in headless chicken mode, but at least they're trying. Five odd miles down, deeper than the depth the Titanic is sitting at. Doing anything down there is bloody hard, particularly having to do it with WALL-E.
Hopefully this new approach will work, but I'm sure BP will keep trying until either the US government pushes them aside or the oil stops leaking.
I'm a bit concerned to hear that volunteers are being turned away from helping at clear up sites over fears of health risks and claims resulting from this. Surely with reduced manpower it's going to take longer to clear the mess up when the time comes?
I don't know though, I'm not in the area, so I can't cast judgement...but at least this isn't as big as the mess that was created when the Kuwaiti oil fields were torched.

Platapus 06-02-10 08:18 PM

The leak is at 5,000 feet, not five miles.

GoldenRivet 06-02-10 10:02 PM

The messiah has proposed a significant budget cut to the United States Coast Guard - right in the middle of this mess. :doh:

what an a-hole

em2nought 06-02-10 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1409673)
Well at least their doing something.

You know what gets me is we still dont know the actual cause of the event.

The gay gunner's mate in number two turret, no wait I know that's supposedly the answer to some question. Hopefully the Navy won't be doing the investigating.

em2nought 06-02-10 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1409966)
>>I dont get all this hatred pointed at BP.

Haven't even read 90% of this thread and i think i can answer that.

- BP is another big oil company.

- Big oil bent the public over and gouged the holy hell out of everyone while simultainously making record profits.

- Now a big oil company royally screws the pooch, and f*cks over local economy (fisherman, oyster farmers, shirmper's etc) and wildlife.

To your average joe, these guys are fat cats who've done nothing but screw people over. So what's not to hate?

You missed one, BP is too big to fail. :hmmm:

krashkart 06-02-10 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1410153)
The messiah has proposed a significant budget cut to the United States Coast Guard - right in the middle of this mess. :doh:

what an a-hole


What a brilliant strategy. :har:


@Oberon: It stinks to high heaven that volunteers are being turned away, but the powers that be might be concerned about possible lawsuits stemming from injuries and illness. How much experience do these folks have with cleaning up crude oil? Are there enough training resources? Is there enough equipment available, and are there adequate emergency resources on hand in the event that some of them get sick from exposure to the oil? Could be any or all of the above factoring in to prevent a green light. Sucks, but I bet it sucks to be the one who has to turn them away.

--

Most days I might agree that BP is evil. Today, however, I have to put my hopes behind their expertise and just pray that they can get it fixed ASAP. But... here's something that kicks my ass every time I think about it: without our demand for fuel they would have no market, and no reason to drill in the first place. Everything we do that requires transport also requires energy to fuel that transport, and our technologies currently revolve around oil as the prime energy source. How do we change that overnight? We can't. We're stuck with petroleum and its potential hazards until alternative energies become both cheap and mainstream enough that civilization no longer needs oil.

In light of that, I don't think it comes down to "evil oil corporations". I think it comes down to we have no other viable alternative energy sources.


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