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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1368554)

Well there is not a lot we can do about it. Concerning SH5 we had exactly two choices

1. Buy it and help financially support the submarine simulation business of UBI

2. Refuse to buy it in protest, thereby convincing UBI management that there is not a market for subsims any more and will stop supporting SH5 and not even consider SH6.

Unless we are stockholders in UBI and have the right to vote, we are pretty much at the whim of the producer.

The only thing we can do is "Vote" with our wallets. If we vote no, we may be causing more harm to the Subsim industry than we are helping.

Yeah, it sucks. :shifty:

I suggest a 3rd option

Don't buy and not bothered seeing them in uncontrolled sinking to the dark deep.

I put my faith in the guys sweating it out in the bilges. Working on parts of code that I cannot understand in the last ditch hope that they can pull this badly damaged game off the rocks. I check on the modders board and I hear that there might be a chance that SH5 might sail proudly. I can only wait and hope.

If it were not for the DRM or the dual core requirement I would have bought in just to show support. But there are too many known obsatacles to make that worth while to me. I raise a glass to those who bought with their eyes open and dug in to fix it.

But no mistake about it Ubisoft owed the customer a playable software package on release, that did not require a permenant internet connection to play. Ubisoft let down the Silent Hunter franchise and its fans around the world.

Most wasted 50$ of my life, got fed up after just a few hours. And i have no hope what so ever that this wreck will be salvaged by patches.

It will Lognog'o'rog... It will. In time you will see.

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Originally Posted by Tarnsman (Post 1368809)

Ubisoft owed the customer a playable software package on release, that did not require a permenant internet connection to play.

I can comiserate with the first part of that, sure, second part, not so sure; they didn't need to put online requirements in, but, owe the customer not to put it in? (Yes, yes, i know, they shot themselves in the foot and all other comments of the like will appear, but not the point i'm trying to make).
Alot of people nowadays are commenting moreso on the fact that it's buggy, the online requirements are a secondary issue. Or so i gather from posts.

Takeda,

I am not holding "PT Boats" up as a "Shining example". Just an example, for better or worse, that some other publishers are moving into first person naval combat.

For the rest of the "Support Ubi because its the only game in town" crowd. Why don't you go here http://dangerdeep.sourceforge.net/ and give these guys your support! They are working on a Type VII game that is FREE! Open Source, no draconian DRM, no 100% internet connection.

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1369012)

Well lets put it this way. Ubi charged full price for a software product that you can not own. You cannot enjoy it as you see fit eg. on a laptop on a flight or a country without stable internet or if you pay for your internet usage time. You cannot dispose of the disk as you wish by selling it or giving it to a friend. You may not be able to play it ten years from now on legacy hardware. What you bought is a licencse to log into Ubisofts's servers to play SH5 as long as Ubi supports it. However long or short that may be. Considering that your uses of SH5 is much less than common to the industry at that price point -- I say yes Ubi owed their customers more than what it delivered under the DRM scheme they chose.