To be honest it read like a review from a gamer not a proper reviewer.

Is it a well known website?

I like how he mentioned FPS level design and how there's too many ladders. :doh: :88)

So you don't appreciate the Fuhrer's Top Secret Tumbling Torp???

OFF WITH HIS HEAD !!!!!!

That guy got PAYED for that review? It's awful. Not that I don't agree with some of the points but what he described there were not game-breakers. The game has plenty of those but he pushed the "autodestruct" button before he got to them. :haha:

Yes it is. They are the guys who make a PC hardware magzine here in the UK titled Custom PC. They aren't a bunch of hacks.

I haven't even bothered to read the review as it sounds too depressing. I still believe that this can be a very good sim but only time will tell.

Besides Flamming Cliffs 2 (addon for Lockon and Flamming Cliffs) will be out within the next month hopefully. :yeah: This is made by the same guys who made DCS Blackshark and who are working on DCS A10c. Blackshark despite all it's immense complexity didn't have even a tenth of the bugs and stuffups that Ubi delivered with SH5.

It's a shame the reviewer was semen obsessed, or perhaps he was trying to intimate that the game was wank? Either way, not a very good way of reviewing professionally, when there were lots of other things that could have been said about the game. I don't need jokes like the ones I used to hear at school.

Is 'PC hardware magazine' a published magazine, or online only?

I may not have been clear in my post. The magazine title is 'Custom PC', not 'PC Hardware'.

Nah it was me not reading things properly. I've not seen it either way - is it a published paper Mag or an online one?

It is print mag. Not a bad one actually. Bit Tech website and Custom PC are part of the same group. Bit Tech does the web and Custom PC the print. Both are decent when it comes to hardware reviews and analysis.

I have to agree. Yeah, the game has some problems design-wise but most of the complaints for me have been answered by mods. Everything else is either bugs or design decisions. As to slow gameplay, I'm averaging 2 missions a session. Granted I haven't moved onto manual targeting yet but I wanna wait and see what kind of UIs appear over the horizon after the next patch. The only thing I wholeheartedly agree with is the DRM. Cut the OSP tether and the game will be soaring in a year.

Like Neal, these guys have to review the stock game. To be honest I've barely played the stock game, because it is flawed. However with MODS SH5 is phenomenal! Easily the best Subsim ever. With the imminent release of Patch 1.2 things should improve even further.

bit-tech.net is a very reputable tech website. I've used them on many occasions for reference and have found their reviews to be quite accurate.

And I happen to agree with this review too. You guys can zero in on the "seamen" comment all you want to turn it into a "this isn't a good review." But he provided two pages worth of accurate commentary on the game as is, without mods and with the lousy DRM issues. He also gave it props for trying to do expand the game with the RPG flavor. It just turned out to be a lousy mechanic for this type of game.

I know everyone is trying really, really hard to like this game despite the drawbacks. But sometimes the truth just plain hurts and this review is a lot more truthful than the "it's not so bad" comments I'm reading.

Getting really tired of hearing "yea but that's been fixed by mods"
That has no bearing on the vanilla install of the game.
There are tons of people who do not and will not use mods ever.

You can't release a crap game then say "oh but it's better with mods"

Think about it.
Don't you realize how bad that sounds?
I'm sorry if that offends you, that i feel your outlook is faulty, but it is..

Saying things like that is like putting a big red sticker on ubisofts door, that says "we don't care that you give us garbage, we will fix it for you."

I'm sorry but they got paid to make this game.
We did not.
We need to emphasize that this can not become the standard.
Because we all know it's getting worse.
And if you keep saying things like that, it will never get better.

I will not give my hard earned money to someone for something they sat on their butt being lazy for, then released, fully knowing how bad it was.

P.S. Regardless the reviewer is a child and his entire review is invalid due to his immaturity.
Sounds like he's 12..
He says "traced all the way back to 1996"
Like as if he was going back in a time machine to 1940..lol..
What a child.
But my point still stands..

Spot on. The game doesn't stand on its feet. Its a failure, only limited by a potential modding scene. But the gamer (except for true hardcore players that will cross Heaven and Hell to please Ubisoft) expects the product he buys to just work. And SH5 doesn't just work. Its an Epic fail with nice graphics.
2/10 is too much, 1/10 is the right grade.

Shove it Fan Boyz. The game is a fail. Eat it and enjoy.:yeah: