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tommyk 03-19-10 02:49 PM

still on SH3/GWX...

Garion 03-19-10 02:50 PM

Still not going to touch it, I am currently playing SH3 and IV fully patched and modded.

I will not support UBI's DRM and continue to vote with my wallet.

Cheers

Garion

frau kaleun 03-19-10 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyk (Post 1324152)
still on SH3/GWX...

Ditto.

jdkbph 03-19-10 02:52 PM

It is silly.

It's a novelty that wears off in about 10 minutes. Beyond that you start to realize just how stupid the idea of a "captain simulator" really is. The main problem is that the AI and orders interface that substitute, or should substitute for "team members" in such a simulator is, respectively, incompetent and messy. It's more work and frustration getting them to do what you need done than it is to just F-key your way to the station and do it yourself. I would argue that doing it yourself is more satisfying as well.

Another example of 1st person silliness is the diving procedure.

Old way: Hit P for periscope depth and the boat begins to dive. In my mind I've hit the alarm waited for my bridge watch to clear and then jumped down the hatch dogging it behind me as the boat goes under.

New way: fish around for WASD (or mod substituted) keys - which I hate using even in real FPS games - get lined up just so on the hatch, clank clank clank your way down into the sub (leaving the watch crew up on deck!), THEN push the p key to start the diving procedure. The watch crew at some point teleports into the boat. I've seen them go under water before that happens.

Immersive? It's not doing anything for me...

JD

sav112 03-19-10 02:55 PM

I really want to buy this game but just not now, as I’ve said not remotely tempted plus the other plus is my old system cant play it. So not a chance I’ll be buying it.

If I had come in here and the View was “what a fantastic finished game, this could be the best game I’ve ever played” instead of the consensus on here it is what it is a rather poorly finished game that’s depending on Mods to work it all out.


Basically the guys manning the gun under water says it all, if they missed that what else is missed and is more important to the game play……Scary.

Tempted in getting SH III plus mods back on the old rig.:oops:

frau kaleun 03-19-10 02:56 PM

Er... wasn't it standard practice for the highest ranking person present on the bridge to be the LAST one down the hatch if a dive was ordered?

Sailor Steve 03-19-10 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jdkbph (Post 1324157)
Old way: Hit P for periscope depth and the boat begins to dive. In my mind I've hit the alarm waited for my bridge watch to clear and then jumped down the hatch dogging it behind me as the boat goes under.

I always hit the key and then instantly right-click to the conning tower. With DBSM I hear the crew shouting orders as they race to their stations. When I hear the hatch close I right-click again to the control room, usually just in time to see them appear in their seats (DD's Open Hatch mod). I only wish the earlier games had SH5's seated helmsman as well.

In SH3 in an external view the watch disappear immediately when you hit any dive key, as they should. In SH4 they stay on the bridge until the boat actually begins to sink. How come with each game the behaviour becomes less realistic?

TarJak 03-19-10 03:02 PM

Still holding out and not missing much by the looks of Neal's review.

tonyw 03-19-10 03:05 PM

At battlestations if you wander down the stern and chat to the cook he just says "Shouldn't you be in the control room kaleun"

Iron Budokan 03-19-10 03:05 PM

I'm doing just fine. I have zero interest in this game. I made that decision when I learned it would only go up to '43. Really, that's all it took for me to give this game a pass. And that was bad enough. What I reallly didn't like was the interview where the devs tried to pretend the rest of the war didn't count and therefore didn't need to be modeled. I simply didn't care for being talked down to like that and being treated as if I were an ignorant POS because I believed the war didn't end in '43.

I can do without that kind of high-minded intellectual revisionism from Ubi, thank you very much.

The RPG, arcade and DRM elements only justified my decision not to give this game the time of day.

I have a life. I've got two little boys in baseball and it takes up a lot of time. I can live without /5 and I've always got /3 and /4 to play.

Speaking for myself, I have no intention of buying this game under the present circumstances. Of course, I understand others have said the same thing and then gone ahead and bought the game. That's cool. They can say one thing and do another (or blame it on their girlfriends, the height of moral emasculation, lol) if they think that's what they need to do.

mr chris 03-19-10 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1324181)
Still holding out and not missing much by the looks of Neal's review.

Aye. Have brought the game limited edition version via the SS link. Played a bit but as you have seen from my thread at the lair i find the game far from playable.

frau kaleun 03-19-10 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyw (Post 1324185)
At battlestations if you wander down the stern and chat to the cook he just says "Shouldn't you be in the control room kaleun"

The cheeky devil! :O:

Exakt 03-19-10 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Boats (Post 1324102)
But as a former sailor I'm really interested in the ability to inspection my boat from stem to stern. Not being able to get past certain bulkheads was OK in the past, but development has come a long way. When I drove boats as a coxswain there wasn't any compartment off limits to me, even the snipes' hideaway. So to me the whole boat would make the game all the more immersive.

But DRM:damn:.

Sure, it is good for immersion, walking the length of the boat, but gameplay shouldn't suffer from it.

Officerpuppy 03-19-10 03:26 PM

I'm here almost everyday, going through threads and looking at the modding section but i still don't own the game.:hmmm:

thyro 03-19-10 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boats (Post 1324072)
I count myself in the group, holding out until the DRM issue is deleted.

Dear friend you are not the only one...

To me SH5 has sank to the bottom coz they forgot to close the hatch... till then, either they die without O2 or will run out of food... but if one day they managed to use the last O2 to come back to the surfice without DRM blasts then I'll glad open my wallet.

SH3 still rocks and SH4 rocks a bit high atm


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