Originally Posted by Schunken (Post 1290152)

Unfortunately.... Yes...

They ask "American Choppers" for this custom plane :03:

(I think there is a pic in our "screenshot thread....)

Andreas

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav (Post 1290245)

Oscar... it is because if they would do a Boeing, the Boeing company would want big buck royalties.
If they did a Grumman Avenger, the same...

I saw that happen in IL-2 some time... american companies wanting money and **** like that.

Therefor the game producers resolve to include "similar" planes to those represented.

Thats the reason that american long range search planes look very Lancaster-esque...

Its a mission for us.

Originally Posted by AG124 (Post 1291515)

Quite disappointed with that list; mostly with smaller, generic merchants and escort craft. SHIV did have a few shortcomings in ships rosters (the fleet carrier and coastal vessel categories for Japan could have used a few more ships), but it did at least provide a good selection of ocean going merchants. This is a step backwards; this merchant roster is almost as bad as the pitiful vanilla SHIII roster. Only two tanker classes? No coastal vessels? Only one type of freighter under 5,000 GRT?

It is good to see a great er selection of UK capital ships, although I wonder why the existing SHIII Fiji Class CL didn't make it into the final cut (I realize the 3d model needed some improvements, but the basic model did exist). The same applies to the USS Wasp ("Early War Fleet Carrier") from SHIV.

Also, there were some ships from the earlier screenshots that I don't see listed here; the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal, and the troop transport Queen Mary, just to name two examples. And no, they were not renamed clones, but actual, accurate, individual models. Are these 'unlockables' (in the vein of arcade games like Battlestations Pacific, which I would never consider playing), or are they special extras which come only with the more expensive "Gold" version of the game. Either way, it is a disappointment to see them apaprently excluded from the basic version of the game.:-?

I was thinking of buying this game, despite the draconian DRM, but the more I see, the less impressed I am (especially since I personally have no interest in detailed crew interactions). The inability to command a Type IX was the first blow (even more than the 1943 end date), but this poor ship roster is the final nail in the coffin for me. I won't criticize anyone else for enjoying this game of course, and I won't spam my discontent over multiple threads, but I think I'll pass on a Silent Hunter title for the first time in my life.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1294267)

I'm confused.


The Ranger class, unless I'm forgetting, wasn't American but British, and certainly no relation to the T1. In fact the 'Small Tanker' in SH3 was the American T1, though not listed as such, and about three times too heavy.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1294267)

I'm confused.


The Ranger class, unless I'm forgetting, wasn't American but British, and certainly no relation to the T1. In fact the 'Small Tanker' in SH3 was the American T1, though not listed as such, and about three times too heavy.

Originally Posted by AG124

Quite disappointed with that list; mostly with smaller, generic merchants and escort craft. SHIV did have a few shortcomings in ships rosters (the fleet carrier and coastal vessel categories for Japan could have used a few more ships), but it did at least provide a good selection of ocean going merchants. This is a step backwards; this merchant roster is almost as bad as the pitiful vanilla SHIII roster. Only two tanker classes? No coastal vessels? Only one type of freighter under 5,000 GRT?