hi all

i have here a xxi with a fore and a aft 5inch gun turret
only i have a couple problems the aft turret is facing to the front and not to the back
and i can use only one turret
is it possible that i can use both ?

grt henk

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:o:o What is that? A BattleSub? As far as I know you can use one deckgun and 3 flakguns. As for the one facing the wrong way, open in S3D and find the node (M01 or M02 usually) that is facing the wrong way. In the "Node Positioning" section that you used to position the guns, make Rotation y=180.

Peabody

i have change it to 1 fore main gun 105mmdg and the 2 20 mm aa

but i can play with one aa and the 105mmdg

how can i make it possible that i can use the second aa also

grt henk

ps: do you not like a batlle sub peabody ? :D

Just like he is doing the tutorial, only you add A01 and A02 nodes in the tower which is usually in the Objects folder. And the upc stuff and they are usually in the Unitparts section inside the UPCData folder. That is the upc file for the tower. But the XXi is not a stock sub so I am not sure how it is set up. But if you find the A01 or first flak gun you need another node in the .dat and info like the tutorial like the A01 that you already have. Compartment, Crewman (usually only one on a flakgun unless it is a "heavy") and the flakgun entry. Just look at A01 and do the same thing only make it A02.

Peabody

Clay,
The tutorial is mainly for new subs/ships made from scratch that don't have any guns yet. The Gato already has the compartments and crewmen and slots necessary to add a gun. So some of the steps you don't need to do. But, so you will know if you need to do it in the future, the compartments just goes next in line for the compartments.

If you take a few minutes to go through the subs.upc file you will see a pattern to it. At first it just look like a mess. But this is the way it is layed out.
1. Compartments
2. Crewmembers for the compartments
3. Equipment and Weapons for the compartments
4. Upgrades for the Equipment and weapons.
5. Functional subsystems..These entries just define what all that stuff it so the game wil know.

So once you see how things go in order, you can follow the tutorial to see how it got there.
If it was the Gato it would be put on like this:

[UserPlayerUnit 1. Compartment 7]
That creates the compartment. A gun is considered a compartment, just like the engine room is considered a compartment.

[UserPlayerUnit 1. Compartment 7. CrewmemberSlot 1]
And
[UserPlayerUnit 1. Compartment 7. CrewmemberSlot 2]
This creates a place to put the men on the gun

[UserPlayerUnit 1. Compartment 7. WeaponSlot 1]
That creates a place to put the gun

Then he show how to put upgrades if you want the gun to change or be able to buy a different one during the war.

Then he shows the funtionalsubsystems.

So I think maybe the reason you got confused as to where to put it is because it is already there on a stock sub, and most of the mod subs. The only difference is in the tutorial he is using compartment 6 and on the gato it is compartments 7 and 8. So if you follow through reading the tutorial but look at the gato compartment 7 it will make sense.

So if you go to part 2 of the tutorial you can put a gun on the sub that isn't normally available for a sub. Etr3 is going to take one out of the GunsRadars.dat which are normally on ships and put it on a sub, and on the Gato you already have a place to put it.

Hope that makes sense.

Peabody

Part 3 of the tutorial is now up! See 3rd post.

P.S. @ peabody, thanks for stepping in and helping out! :salute:

Hope I didn't step on your toes. Clay was having a little trouble because he was using a sub that already had the stuff you were describing and it got a bit confusing because of that.
Great tutorial on a difficult topic. Appreciate the time you put into it.

Peabody

No toes on stepped on at all.:)

This is AWESOME!!! Now I can make my Ohio a death ship, even without nukes. Now I'm just curious, how would I go about setting up the guns so they are stored in the missile tubes, and then on the surface, the tubes open and the guns pop out.

I just want to see how to get the tubes to open, and get the guns to lower and raise. If possible, I'd like to learn how to set up the commands/timing so the guns come out only when the guns are manned, so that the sub looks like a regular Ohio until I call GQ.:arrgh!:

Kinda like a Q-ship, just really fast, mean, and quiet.

I hope it's not too much trouble, I'm just a complete n00b in this stuff and want to learn.

etr3 this is great tutorial all i want to ask is that does it work with surface convert playble ships or liners wich dont have any deck gun to fire back at enemy and antiaircraft gun too?

Thanks.!!!!!!!!! :)