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Tribesman 01-28-10 04:25 PM

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where do you see "eliminating" in "a slow painful death"(by Rilder) and "keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped" (by Tribesman)?
My suggestion was because I oppose the death penalty.
Are you somehow saying that the outcome I suggested would not be fitting for this particular piece of scum?
If so can you explain why such a result would not be appropriate.

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All I was saying is that while I am normally against the death penalty i'd make an exception in his case. That's because there is absolutely no doubt about his guilt.
Unfortunately thats nearly always the case, until people calm down and look.
The problem with the claim that "there is absolutely no doubt" when it comes to capital punishment is that again and again that phrase turns round and bites them on the arse at a later date.

AVGWarhawk 01-28-10 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1249307)
Can you think of a better punishment for this white supremacist rapist than keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped in prison by a succesion of his "racial inferiors"?


You got something there but I would venture to guess there would be some sort of protection with the other supremacists. There are groups, gangs, whatever you want to call them.

Tribesman 01-28-10 04:39 PM

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You got something there but I would venture to guess there would be some sort of protection with the other supremacists.
As he appears to be a violent criminal he should be considered a threat even to the general prison population, so I would suggest solitary....but as a cost cutting measure make it solitary where he has to share a cell.
Though of course you can't make him share his solitary cell with a white supremacist as that would be rewarding him by placing him in his little whites only paradise.

XabbaRus 01-28-10 04:47 PM

I just made a statement of fact.

Torvald Von Mansee 01-28-10 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1250142)
You got something there but I would venture to guess there would be some sort of protection with the other supremacists. There are groups, gangs, whatever you want to call them.

I'll bet O.J. Simpson has already got into a gang. If he didn't, I think we already would have heard about his prison murder.

Torvald Von Mansee 01-28-10 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1249838)
If I had a medieval sense of justice i'd be advocating putting that animal on the rack. All I was saying is that while I am normally against the death penalty i'd make an exception in his case. That's because there is absolutely no doubt about his guilt.

Heh. Humans are all primitive. Women like tall men. Why? Because tall men can see further to find prey for hunting in a hunting and gathering situation. In our modern world, we don't have to worry about food (well, most of us), and added height really is no longer as handy as it used to be. Yet women still like tall men. I guess it's the same deal w/vengeance.

August 01-28-10 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee (Post 1250353)
Heh. Humans are all primitive. Women like tall men. Why? Because tall men can see further to find prey for hunting in a hunting and gathering situation. In our modern world, we don't have to worry about food (well, most of us), and added height really is no longer as handy as it used to be. Yet women still like tall men. I guess it's the same deal w/vengeance.

It's not vengeance Torvald. I don't want to see him tortured, just made dead before he can infect others.

Weiss Pinguin 01-28-10 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee (Post 1250353)
Heh. Humans are all primitive. Women like tall men. Why? Because tall men can see further to find prey for hunting in a hunting and gathering situation. In our modern world, we don't have to worry about food (well, most of us), and added height really is no longer as handy as it used to be. Yet women still like tall men. I guess it's the same deal w/vengeance.

I always figured it was because shorter guys like me just didn't look as imposing. :p2:

kranz 01-29-10 06:35 AM

For me being against death penalty is making NO exceptions. No matter what were the circumstances. What is more I wouldn't call him an animal-as far as I know even animals are not a cruel as humans. I would also not rely death penalty on the doubt of guilt or not. Tribesman: what you suggest is just cutting a hand for stealing, cutting the tongue for lying(this form of verb is probably wrong but u know what i mean). Simply it won't do. We would have to many invalids. Personally: the more cruel ways of punishing we make the more similar to "them" we become. The only difference is the so-called "law" that "allows" us to kill them and forbides them to kill us.

Skybird 01-29-10 07:21 AM

Let's take bloody revenge! :yeah:

At least that'S what this thread smells like.

:hmmm: Determination not only is something different than emotional arousal and rage. Determination even has the absence of emotional arousal as a precondition.

August 01-29-10 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kranz (Post 1250883)
as far as I know even animals are not a cruel as humans.

Obviously kranz you have never owned a cat. :)

kranz 01-29-10 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1251064)
Obviously kranz you have never owned a cat. :)

yeah, actually I haven't but once I had my leg "raped" by a dog:wah:

Torvald Von Mansee 01-29-10 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1250580)
It's not vengeance Torvald. I don't want to see him tortured, just made dead before he can infect others.


August: you know, whenever I hear someone say "Well, killing a murderer won't bring back the victim(s)" I always counter with "please list all the murderers that killed again after being executed."

Torvald Von Mansee 01-29-10 09:56 AM

Appended to the above: when I say "murderer," I mean someone we know w/absolute certainty IS a murderer (like the guy who sparked this thread).

Btw, his execution date has been set for March 18th. He opted for, strangely enough, the electric chair!!! I guess we'll get some of our bloody vengeance, then, as that is almost certainly a really nasty way to go.

kranz 01-29-10 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee (Post 1251150)
He opted for, strangely enough, the electric chair!!! I guess we'll get some of our bloody vengeance, then, as that is almost certainly a really nasty way to go.

yeah that's well fcked up. But actually according to this latest issues with lethal injection there is no good method. We can only imagine what happens after the shot and so on but those who were opposing d.penalty raised the question of possible pain inflicted. For me it's just crazy that you are able to decide how you want to die...:nope:


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