Excellent point Webster....... There sure are valid arguements made covering all the bases here......

I was going to purchase SH 5 to support the franchise and hope a SH 6 would go back to the PTO since Im a Fleetboat guy, but if I have to go online to play single player and store my game online etc, I will just stick with the excellently modded SH 4.That is just pure crap from UBI.

what i find the most confusing is they took a game with a loyal fan base but not huge sales potential and basicly just told a good 40-60% of those customers they are getting a game they will find has been made undesirable if not unacceptable to them

I had a positive attitude toward SH5 the whole time. But going online to play a single player game is a no go from me. :down:

I,m good with all the stuff in sh-5 . But now i understand you have to be online ALL the time!!! I cannot accept this. I thought it was going online to log in only!

If my mind wasn't made up before, it definatly is now. Makes me wonder if i should start working on the uboat section of SH4 for TMO. Before, I didn't touch it because i didn't have the time. Then i didn't touch it because i figured with GWX 4 coming, working on uboats was pointless. They'd have it well covered, no point in wasting my time. Then i figured, with SH5 coming, working on uboats was REALLY pointless. Now im back to wondering where i'd find the time. :shifty:

(sorry Dan, i don't mean to make ripples in the pond, but really man, who's making some of these decisions with SH5?)

I expect it will work like "Rise of Flight" where you give an ID and password to complete the start-up. It takes about five seconds and that's it. The good side to that is you can install the game anywhere and many times, but unless one knows the user account, it will not start.

Or it may be like Jutland, where you get a license that allows only one installation to work at a time. The game will validate without your input needed after that. If you want to move the game to another system, you press CTRL - F12 and the user ID and password are shown, then selecting OK releases the license so you can use it for the new install.

Both these are painless methods that I'd prefer to not need, but it does prevent multiple use of one product. :arrgh!:

Some people simply don't have any choice I'm afraid.

Personally speaking, I'm in the process of upgrading my 20MB connection to 50MB but the days of dial up are still fresh in my memory banks.

I reckon you'd be suprised (and looking at Websters post I'd say he pretty much confirms the fact) how many areas in the western hemisphere still lag behind Broadband etc.

People that have a good connection play WoW anyway, or are running around online with M-16s and Desert Eagles in their Virtual Hands.

They wanna sel a Sub game to these people?
LOL!
might just as well quit the job right now - serious SIMmers dont do that kind of online "running around shootn stuff", and there are a lot of us.

Even if the big Publishers go console market only, i wont buy their crap no mo'

Simulators for the win! Freedom for the customer! The Customer is King- always!

I was all fanboy and cant wait till I learned the terms of the DRM.

My attitude changed immediatly.

dsl over dialup modem i would take.

Until a few years ago DSL was not available in my area.
Some telephone exchanges just can't handle more than dialup.

Which portion of posters are you referring to?

It is true there have been some posters who have gotten a little emotional but they are the minority. There is a far larger portion of the posters who are calmly posting their opinions based on what Ubi has chosen to release.

The Emo posters need to be ignored. But the other posters are bringing up legitimate concerns.

That is the entire purpose of websites like this. To allow people who could not normally exchange opinions, to do so. I just don't see the problem.

Well...I live in the capital city of my country. My house is less than 10 years old, yet I am limited to 1500/256k ADSL, capped at 40GB d/l (shaped thereafter). I, like most Australians, am a victim of the Telstra infastructure monopoly (and they are not even my ISP).

And the cost for this luxury? AU$70 per month!

And I consider myself lucky. Some of my friends that live up the road were on dialup until 12 months ago!

And I'm willing to bet that there's many people reading this that wish they had what I have.

It's very funny reading posts from (mainly) Americans saying that if you have slow internet then you must be living in the sticks, thus don't deserve to play SH5. Get a dose of reality guys - there's a big wide world beyond your shores. ;)

Ducimus, remember to try out the latest OM+OMEGU... :haha: It's not about the pacific anymore.

Ubi might get a few thousand more sells initially, but if they lose 30-40 talented modders, they'll be in a world of hurt. Just think how much the SH3 community has OLC to thank about. But he never switched to SH4 and you can see the results.