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Aramike

01-12-10 06:20 PM

Now Avatar is causing depression and suicidal thoughts:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ues/index.html

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"One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality," Hill said.

He "so much wanted to escape reality"???

Sounds like he already has. :yep:

Platapus

01-12-10 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1234943)

Between this and the claims of the plot rip off from Pochantis (sp?) I sometimes wonder if they arent just stirring up buzz to garner interest.

I don't think anyone is claiming it is a rip off. Evidently it is the same plot of the movie "A man called Horse".

I have not seen the movie either. Will probably add it to my netflix account... or not. Depends on what else is out there.

Platapus

01-12-10 07:01 PM

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Balcer says the film makes Marines "look like lunatics." In reality, he said, "We are a good, generous country that helps people."

Balcer's comments might mean something, and I might even care what he thinks, if Avatar was being marketed as a documentary or a non-fiction movie. But it is not. It is a FICTION movie. Nothing in the move is real nor is it intended to be real. That's the whole idea behind fiction.

So in real life marines can be the good guys and in a fictional movie they can be the bad guys.....why? because it is fiction.

[Fiction refers to books and stories about imaginary people and events, rather than books about real people or events.[/quote

http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=...l=en&q=fiction

I guess people like Balcer feel they have to bitch about something. :nope:

nikimcbee

01-12-10 07:18 PM

Expensive graphics aside:doh:, Avatar is nothing more than Liberal, whiteman's guilt on display. It's only a movie, if you don't like it, don't see it. When I saw it, this was the first thing I thought of:
(Avatar, the non-3D version:haha:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4

I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park.:yawn:

I didn't think it was that bad, I just rolled my eyes when they got to the preachy part.

Platapus

01-12-10 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1235299)

I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park.:yawn:

Is it "Dances with wolves" or "A man called Horse" I have heard both. Which did you think was closer?

CaptainHaplo

01-12-10 07:49 PM

Its more like "A man called Horse who Dances with Wolves - badly".

TarJak

01-12-10 09:06 PM

:yep:^^

Wolfehunter

01-12-10 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight (Post 1235139)

Hardcore right wingers are REALLY up in arms over Avatar. You should have heard Rush Limbaugh rallying against it the other day (Yeah, I'm an EXTREME lefty, but I do occasionally listen to the righties sometimes just to hear the opposing viewpoints). There were conservatives yelling and screaming everything from "portraying big business as being sinister and irresponsible, and greedy", "Our military is evil and totalitarian" to "Paganism and teaching anti-Christian values". Aparently, a lot of hardcore right wingers see this movie as an attack on everything they hold dear and claim that it's part of a mass media conspiracy to brainwash kids to think that conservative, right wing values are evil, self serving, and detrimental.

Apparently... EVERYTHING is a conspiracy against The Right according to our friend Rush. :nope:

Dude. It's just a MOVIE !
And yes... there ARE SOME rings of TRUTH in the movie's message regardless of what people claim about it. There are SO MANY examples of the truth behind it's message.

Yup I love the movie too. They have nothing better to do than whine.. Well that's there right I guess... :yeah:

Not like its going to change anything... Money talks everything else walks... :O:

August

01-12-10 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1235403)

They have nothing better to do than whine.. Well that's there right I guess... :yeah:

Apparently you missed Xabbas most excellent reply:

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus (Post 1235188)

Well the left wing are up in arms because Avatar is racist apparently.

They are saying it perpetuates the white mesiah saving the natives from themselves idea.

I personally think there are so many people who have nothing better to do than get offended and read too much into things.

Both sides have their whiners.

nikimcbee

01-13-10 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1235310)

Is it "Dances with wolves" or "A man called Horse" I have heard both. Which did you think was closer?

It's been a looooooooooong since I've seen the "Horse" one. The motives are different between Avatar and DwW. In Avatar, the motive is bad, in DwW, Costner dosen't have much of a choice, as there is no one else on the praire to talk to. Plus the Army in DwW was out there to protect settlers from the American Indians.

Weiss Pinguin

01-13-10 10:56 AM

I guess it was kind of like A Man Called Horse, except instead of being captured, his whole goal was to get in with the natives, and that kinda changes his motives. It was like a lot of movies lol

Catfish

01-13-10 01:07 PM

Hello,
it is certainly a break to the usually glorified Hollywood phantasies they call "war".
Guess Mr. Balcer would have liked the 1943 propaganda film with H. Bogart "Action in the North Atlantic" better, the bad guys are where they belong like germans gunning down shipwrecked sailors and their commander wearing a white silk scarf - or maybe "U-571" ? I heard submarine veterans gave standing ovations after the premiere of this lousy piece of concocted history.
Or maybe he is just still uninformed about with what greater intentions he was sent to 'nam, or wherever ? Helping the people, really !

Yes i'm biased, i think Avatar was a damn good film, better than a lot i saw in the last 10 years. And yes, "Avatar " is anti-military from its message (if not from the pictures, and action scenes lol) so according to Balcer it certainly must be anti-american :O:

Greetings,
Catfish

jimbob

01-13-10 05:23 PM

So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ?

Like, there's no real problems about.

Blacklight

01-13-10 06:13 PM

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So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ?

More like "Dances With Wolves" 2009 on an alien planet.

Tribesman

01-13-10 06:33 PM

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"This is the only time I ever sat in a theater where people were cheering the forest and the blue people, attacking ex-Marines," Roeser said.

I wonder how many films with blue people in Tom Roeser has watched?

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