Did i ever mention where i live?

The Peoples Republic of California.

Said in jest, but there's a little truth to it. :haha:

The worst part is, really stupid propositions that were passed by majority vote, have to be vetoed by a majority vote. Special interest has this state by the balls. And while the Governator is aguably more of a political tourist, the state is damn near ungovernable from my understanding due to how some laws/propositions are passed by a direct vote of the people. Calfornia i think is the only state taht does this, and I've read more then once that the state constitution needs to be redone.

Or, as I started calling it after leaving there, Cantafordya.

So I can stop paying $2000 for my health insurance each year and pay a $750 fine instead? What's my deductible with that?

I don't care what side of the aisle you're on: if you don't see the idiocy of this bill, you're either an idiot or have willfully put blinders on to reality. this bill spends a whole ton of money, solves absolutely nothing, and will raise the cost of healthcare in general.

The American people only have themselves to blame, though - for one, we've elected these narcissistic morons. Secondly, we've created a culture where it's political suicide to say "we were wrong", and therefore they cannot back off of trying to ram SOMETHING through.

Thats actually one of the funny things about this bill. If you refuse or neglect to participate the 'fine' is less than you would be paying if you did participate. So guess which way alot of pepole will go. ;)