Use the free Malewarebytes and Zone Alarm thats good enough.

Forget about the stupid anti virus software.

Well, you need to watch and I recommend all three. Today I looked into a virus that was sent out on my friends Facebook. It as a trojan and it also redirected any links on her Facebook page to a porn site. Needless to say she did not want to send links to porn sites. At any rate, I clicked the link and ESET AV caught the virus and Windows Defender also recognized the threat. Malewarebytes did not but I did use Malewarebytes to remove the offender. I recommend all three for good protection. As a side note, my Norton AV on my daughters computer caught the virus and shut it out. Avast on my Vista machine caught the virus and shut it out. Avast is free and is not intrusive at all. It updates at sign in and sits quietly until needed.

Knowledge is your BEST protection. Yes have an antivirus if you must but what the hell its doesn't really matter, knowledge is the key here, safe browsing, no porn sites no social sites unless you know what your doing in social sites stay away from it! A hackers paradise is a social site lol.

Some viruses can never be detected.

I read this on Tomshardware forum a awhile back:

There is an exploit out that once triggered it will take your passwords that are stored in your browser, Messenger and attempt to send them out to the internet where your passwords will be used for a hackers benefit. This could mean that all your accounts such as Paypal, Forums, File hosts Social sites, Credit Cards and anything else of value could become compromised and you may lose them or money. Virtually NO Anti Viruses will detect an infection as they are continuing changing, firewalls will allow it out so it can send information back to the hackers pc, Zonealarm one of the best cannot detect it. This can come in trogan form, from a link, an jpg, exe, txt file anything.

Stays dormant on your machine does not slow down your pc or anything thats seems suspicous to the user will jump from drive to drive to become more hard to detect dont even think reformat windows will get rid of it if multiple forms is on your other drives. Microsoft dont even want to know about it this is one update they can't invent.

One way you can avoid it working is never let your browser/chat software save your passwords. Copy all your passwords down into a txt file save it to your desktop (providing you trust others who use your pc) and copy paste pw's to use when logging in.

Here is my git, my wife and girls, although can operate the computer and surf the net sometimes end up clicking the wrong thing. As noted above with a link sent in Facebook that was subsequently hacked. My wife clicked on it fully trusting her friend's link to some nice site or something. Up popped Norton and said, 'No way!' It was a redirect virus to a porn site. Some get by on these sites that have kids games. My youngest clicked a link in a seemingly innocent site that had kids games. Virus got in. It was a redirect virus that always redirected my web browsing to a 'anti-virus' site. It was a total set up if I have ever seen one. It took a better part of 2 hours to rid the machine of the damn thing. Anti-virus do serve their purpose. To me the more hoops the virus has to jump through the better off your computer will be.


Condoms are 99% effective against conceiving a child and or contracting a STD. Sometimes the condom breaks and it is that 1% chance of conceiving and or contracting a STD. If you leave your computer without a anti-virus you got a 100% chance of getting a virus. Why give the virus the chance to come in all in the name of having a faster machine or "I surf smart."? I would much prefer the 99% coverage and take my chance on 1% failure. 100% failure is and should not be an option on anyone computer specifically when there are multiple anti-virus programs out there that work very well and do so with a minimal footprint.

As far as Trojans and stealing of password, change your passwords often. Do not send information over the net on a site that does not have https (s for secure). Have a bank that contacts you with strange activity is happening with your account. I use one credit vard on the net. If anything is charged over $150.00 I'm notified via email and phone. There are ways to protect yourself other then depending on an anti-virus although the anit-virus is part of the overall protection picture.

The best anti virus
 

Buy an Apple Macintosh. I have a Macbook Pro with Windows XP. And SH4 WOP and UBM run fine fine fine.

Mac's are hardly invulnerable to viruses. Just most hackers don't bother writing viruses for systems that pretty much only graphic designers use. Apple's market share isn't even in the double digits (around 3-5%).

Umm not exactly. Condoms are much more unreliable for birth control. Perfect use has a 2% chance of pregnancy per year on average, typical use is around 10-18% pregnancy chance per year. If you don't know how to put one on properly/are inexperienced with them, the chance jumps to way over 50% per year. They are good for most blood transmitted STDs though, particularly AIDS. This is why I always say don't rely only on condoms for birth control.
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Ok, 2% Neon if used perfectly :O: I said 1%. :D Point is, best to have an anti-virus and reduce the % a virus will infect the old hard drive! :har:

Condom with spermicide.... :03:

Yep that is true unless of course you got suckered into one of those fake AV programs which install more viruses. :03:

Ah, that is what happened to my daughter. She clicked a link that showed the usual you got a virus and porn, yadda yadda click here for the anti-virus program that will remove this virus. Total scam. When I checked into the virus on the infected computer the internet would redirect me right to the same "anti-virus" site that can remove this virus. What a set up it was. I'm sure many have paid and the virus was gone but all the same the virus could be removed with Malewarebytes. At any rate, some people are suckered into these fake programs. No doubt about it. Then there are people who ask a bunch of questions first. :03: