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Hitman 11-01-09 11:28 AM

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feel so much more enlightened by learning about the concept of command, considering i served in the airborne for 6 years
The Navy is a very different world when compared with other military branches. Unlike most of them, the crew of a ship lives in a very confined space that is shared by all rates, from the last sailor to -sometimes- even an admiral. The Navy has therefore been traditionally much more classist and has kept ranks even more separated than other branches, because otherwise a bigger familiarity of enlisted men with their officers could potentially damage discipline (Or at least so it was thought). What an XO does on a ship has barely an equal in the grounded forces, there are intermediate officers in each company, of course, but not just one as the top of an iceberg. The XO is the last filter or barrier before the captain, and the burden of administrative and daily tasks that overload them is frightening. But if those tasks didn't stop at him, and reached the captain, he would be unable to concentrate in effective command of the ship. The XO, in exchange for such administrative overload has not such a direct responsability in the ship's actions during a battle as the captain.

Platapus 11-01-09 12:12 PM

Sounds like being the XO/IWO would kinda suck. :O:

Rosencrantz 11-01-09 02:10 PM

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4para wrote: "The cook has accidently badly burned himself , and Dieter Guntz Uboot medic lost the key to the first aid cabinet during last dive!!"

Sorry, but I wouldn't be pleased to find my valuable gaming time vasted that way.


Greetings,
-RC-

Lord Justice 11-01-09 08:54 PM

chain of command
 
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Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1197618)
The Navy is a very different world when compared with other military branches. Unlike most of them, the crew of a ship lives in a very confined space that is shared by all rates, from the last sailor to -sometimes- even an admiral. The Navy has therefore been traditionally much more classist and has kept ranks even more separated than other branches, because otherwise a bigger familiarity of enlisted men with their officers could potentially damage discipline (Or at least so it was thought). What an XO does on a ship has barely an equal in the grounded forces, there are intermediate officers in each company, of course, but not just one as the top of an iceberg. The XO is the last filter or barrier before the captain, and the burden of administrative and daily tasks that overload them is frightening. But if those tasks didn't stop at him, and reached the captain, he would be unable to concentrate in effective command of the ship. The XO, in exchange for such administrative overload has not such a direct responsability in the ship's actions during a battle as the captain.

oh come come man, you think we subsimmers dont know?? as for my quote about my time in the parachute regiment ( airbourne) are you that foolish that you did not understand that i merely acknowledge about command and rank structure??? then futher one has the ignorance to lecture, lol what a mouth... splendid

Hitman 11-02-09 08:00 AM

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oh come come man, you think we subsimmers dont know??
Considering the number of posts you have on this forum, and the date you registered, I honestly have not yet an accurate idea of what you know or don't know, sorry. Since you say your are already aware of that, then I'll take it into account in future posts :up:

kptn_kaiserhof 11-02-09 01:40 PM

what if a sailor gets so much morale drop that he will jump overboard

(like in K 19 the widowmaker)

Webster 11-04-09 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Para (Post 1197381)
Centered around me and my crew??? lol read the 1st an idea only and the odd, did i type that or consistent, odd odd flash pop up q!!! not the game play, yeah some do take to deeper levels, yah yah yah. this is for opinion not really debate, so fair doos, right now iam above dont pull me down just as yet i will dive when ready. :DL

i was talking about the topic of discussion we are having on this subject and you chose to take my expressed opinion on the subject as some sort of personal attack on you. :06:

every post is not about you

mookiemookie 11-04-09 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kptn_kaiserhof (Post 1198082)
what if a sailor gets so much morale drop that he will jump overboard

(like in K 19 the widowmaker)

The only cases I can recall of any u-boat man committing suicide on a patrol were Peter Zschech and Horst Hoeltring (granted, the ship was going down when Hoeltring shot himself but still).

Lord Justice 11-04-09 08:19 PM

perhaps they got spooked by the chosen few. wolfpack within a wolfpack!! if u get my drift, rig for silent the bulk heads have eyes .. only they understand!! the crew


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