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Thanks for making my point for me. Gee, I guess he must be the first successful ... anybody ... that is confronted with "taking it". Let's see, either he had no choice - or he'd just commit suicide.
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You completely misinterpreted my original point (perhaps intentionally): this new documentary about him isn't going to change anything. He will not "crack" under the "pressure" from it, he'll still make money off future documentaries, he will still be Michael Moore, life will continue as usual.
As for your point, how did I confirm that it "seems like he has no choice"? For the record, I never disagreed that he didn't; only that this would do nothing to skewer and destroy his career, contrary to what the makers of these documentaries seem to think.
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Really, are you insane? Are you really suggesting that Moore as a person is any more equipped to handle criticism than anyone else?
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I'm starting to wonder if you are the one with the problem. Where did I ever say in any of my posts here that he was
"any more equipped to handle criticism than anyone else"? I didn't, precisely because that wasn't even relevant to what I intended (and did) focus on originally.
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My point is that - umm ... so? Sure, he can take it. So can most other people, should they be thrust into a situation where the feedback is likely.
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Then there was no need to even bother challenging my position to begin with, because I share this exact same viewpoint. I did so from the beginning...:up:
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Hell, I personally find the idiots who buy into his anti-capitalist garbage to be hilarious as they emphatically agree with Moore while he laughs his way to the bank with their money.
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Did you ever stop and think that maybe they simply enjoy his documentaries for the entertainment value? Or perhaps because they do agree with him on some points, not necessarily the "anti-capitalist garbage" and were fully aware of the "irony" of paying to see it in theatres? Guess not.
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Who said anything about making him less successful?
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Well that's the obvious purpose to these documentaries about him. The intent is based around hoping that they will damage his reputation and ruin him. And vice versa from Moore's standpoint. Not that it ever does though.
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Or was that the mindless liberal in you just coming out?
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Judging by the anger you seem to be showing in this post alone, I'm guessing you're having one of those days when the raging conservative inside your cranial shell bursts out like the devil's incarnate.
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Hell, I don't care - let the guy make his money however he wants to ... if he wants to peddle distortions and he has a market of idiots who will make him rich off of them, all the while agreeing that rich people are somehow evil, damn, good job M&M.
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Well it's obvious you do care to some extent. You're taking a lot of time to ramble on about it, and you also are oozing with intensity for him and the people who associate themselves with him, his work, and some of his ideals. The only thing I'm interested in at this point now is why do you care?
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To me, he's on the same level as Rush Limbaugh - his business is politics.
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Agreed as far as their tactics are concerned.
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Let them both have their business and profit from it. But, you have to have blinders on to not notice the clear distinction - both clearly gladly profit from their positions but only one makes the statement that the same thing that's made him rich is someone immoral.
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So Moore is a hypocrite and Rush is not? There's a man who said that all drug users ought to be put to death, when he himself has been caught and brought up on charges of possession and use of cocaine.
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I personally don't like either hardline side and I hate ideological spin, and have a complete disdain for people who seem to mindlessly buy into anything their side does.
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Well I also hate sheep, so at least we've found three things today that we can agree on.
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Michael Moore is no one special as far as having the backbone to take criticism. It's pretty damned easy to take anything in stride when your film makes $200M.
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Make that four.