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It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.

Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).

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Originally Posted by Highbury (Post 1193158)

A U-boat POW of the time backs up Mr Oesten as well:

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A reliable prisoner stated that he was acquainted with the Bathythermograph which bears the German nick-name of “Lachs” (literally “salmon”). As far as he knows this is never carried by U-boats on patrol but he thought that it was built into weather buoys. It might be carried by boats carrying meteorologists. If a boat remains submerged for a long time it is constantly to take samples of the water every half hour to determine the density. This might be done more frequently if the boat shows a tendency to rise or fall.

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1192964)

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Originally Posted by Highbury (Post 1193158)

US boats were able to detect the layer. So no reason it should not have been in SHIV.

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Originally Posted by Rip (Post 1193283)

US boats were able to detect the layer. So no reason it should not have been in SHIV.

1: How?

2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).

And Joergen tells that sh3 is more difficult then it was in real life..

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1193410)

1: How?

2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).

The layer effects all underwater acoustics.

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Originally Posted by Rip (Post 1193714)

The layer effects all underwater acoustics.

Oh.
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1193410)

1: How?

Most American subs after 1943 were equipped with a bathythermograph. A device which could detect a thermocline.

http://www.fleetsubmarine.com/bathythermograph.html

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2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).

As far as I know Japan did have sonar. Not as good as the Allied or German sets but they did possess it.

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1193848)

Most American subs after 1943 were equipped with a bathythermograph. A device which could detect a thermocline.

http://www.fleetsubmarine.com/bathythermograph.html

As far as I know Japan did have sonar. Not as good as the Allied or German sets but they did possess it.

Thanks, Torplexed.
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