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Shearwater 10-09-09 02:40 PM

Quite concise. The only problem I have is at the very beginning: "In fact, I think for some people, believing in a false god - and this one is false because they all are - can be quite therapeutic." (0:12)
I think that this is unnecessary because it invites ad hominem arguments and is no prerequisite for his argumentation.

Aramike 10-09-09 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shearwater (Post 1186701)
Quite concise. The only problem I have is at the very beginning: "In fact, I think for some people, believing in a false god - and this one is false because they all are - can be quite therapeutic." (0:12)
I think that this is unnecessary because it invites ad hominem arguments and is no prerequisite for his argumentation.

Agreed. I think its more a display of the man's total lack of character than anything else.

Not that I think he's necessarily wrong ... but I have little tolerance for anyone with such a closed mind, especially when combined with condescension.

Castout 10-11-09 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1186602)
No. Everyone who believes into something that is based solely to an human written book proof-wise is dumb if you ask me.

Wait you assume too much. You get to experience what you read if you believe.:) Say what if you could see what you believe in? or experience getting an instant answer to your personal prayer? or somehow you could sometimes feel the heart(mood, feeling, intention) of other people or sense energy beings when they move(if you think these only dare to move or show themselves in darkness you would probably be surprise to know them flying across a classroom slowly full of people without anyone else noticing its ripple of energy wave in broad daylight to show you who just made your heart laugh, it was probably not evil though), and seeing the world before they happen? What if you were given a chance to get to know death to see death to know what is death in its full swing? Or to know at exactly what age a person you love is going to be taken away from you? Wouldn't your eyes be opened to the things that's beyond this world?

Or easier if some lost people sent you evil spirit or demon your way to attack you or a shamanic attack for example that caused needle pain say in the head or groin of course without medical explanation. Haha even people in power resort to these kind of things in the 21st century. Don't be fooled the reason that they declare that they don't believe in higher being is because they do not want anybody to oppose them and so that those people would not able to defend themselves when they resort to their spiritual warfare. Be not afraid.


I know may people probably have abused the name of God and commit evil in the name of religion but if a person is religious for the sake of being religious what's the difference of him and the pharisees then that Jesus condemned?
Religion is not about getting religious but about having a personal relationship with God. So that one may know God not solely based on the experience of the ancient people of the bible but in his own personal life however little, whatever is revealed to him personally. God never changes. The God of Moses is the God who is worshiped today. The God of Elijah is the God who is worshiped today.

Anyway just giving another perspective,

Platapus 10-11-09 06:42 PM

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napoleon Bonaparte


:D

FIREWALL 10-11-09 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1186302)
Why not take this as another measure of what the dear leader is all about? The catholic church is made up of its members, like GM is made up of its employees (UAW).

Both have a right to speak but only one takes money from the government. Which would you trust?

Both Take. One is tax exempt.

Don't trust either. :nope:

antikristuseke 10-11-09 07:05 PM

Surely, the video in the OP has to be satire, right? :cry:

I have no problem with peoples personal faith, but organized religion pisses me off, as does willful ignorance, but meh, to tired to rant.

SS107.9MHz 10-12-09 05:44 PM

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