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FIREWALL 10-02-09 12:10 PM
I don't watch the Olys any more.

After the China one I, think their fixed.

Carotio 10-02-09 12:17 PM
The former Danish IOC member thinks that Obama should have made a longer stay than just 5 hours.

Well, maybe, maybe not. Who really knows?

I don't think it would have hurt Chicago if Obama would have stayed for a couple of days, but really matter is: the cities themselves.
It's the cities, which are candidates, not the countries or state leaders.

Rio had the advantage that the Olympics has never been in South America before, and I really think this is what made the difference. And since the majority of the IOC members voted for Rio, that is a triumph, which none of the three other candidates could compete against.
So I see no reason for hard feelings or deep investigations of what went wrong. It was just meant to be.

I for one think it is great that it will be in Rio. :D

I only regret one thing: I believed in Rio, so I should have made a few bets... :haha:

SteamWake 10-02-09 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1182537)
I don't watch the Olys any more.

After the China one I, think their fixed.
You know for a little while there I thought Barry might be sucessful in his bid due to the high level of corruption associated with the Olys. Thought maybe he would fit right in.

nikimcbee 10-02-09 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Carotio (Post 1182540)
The former Danish IOC member thinks that Obama should have made a longer stay than just 5 hours.

:haha:
How about staying for 3.5 years?:hmmm::yeah::haha: But I guess Denmark's taxes are high enough.
Well, good for Rio:salute:. They have a crime problem too (the Favellas?) the slums where the police won't even go into. I don't know if they have a corruption problem like Chicago does.:D Maybe this means obama's charm has finally wore off?:hmmm: I digress...

My funny Chicago story is: My "ex" wanted to move to Chicago, (she wanted to live in a big city. She's from Moscow) Well, we took a road trip to Chicago and she just loved it:nope:. Well, she kept going on, on how we should move here, so I had to put an end to that.:hmmm:
Right around twilight, I found the scummiest part of town and drove through:D. We couldn't get out of there fast enough and back on the North side.:haha:
Problem solved.:yeah:
But just think, if we moved there, I could hang out with 1480:D.

Aramike 10-02-09 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1181731)
Agreed. The olympics lost much of its meaning/charm when Jimmy Carter boycotted the summer games in Moscow 1980, inserting politics into the athletics. It has never recovered in the US.
That's one of the rare Jimmy Carter moves I support.

In any case, I'm kind of shocked Chicago didn't get the games. You'd think that with all the corruption in Chicago, the IOC would feel right at home! :03:

Carotio 10-02-09 02:31 PM
Politics was also involved in 1916, 1940 and 1944, when the games were cancelled because of the two world wars.
Moscow was "cancelled" or rather boycutted by many, because the Soviet Union had just started the invasion of Afghanistan.
The USA is still a nation in war, more or less. Not against another nation, but still having soldiers on foreign soil. You never know if this fact has influenced the IOC members too.
This is the Olympics of modern time. Difficult to completely seperate from politics.
Not like the Olympics of the antique, when all the Greek city states, put their wars to side, made a cease-fire and celebrated the sports in peace and harmony for several hundred years in the valley below Mount Olympia in central Greece...

If it lasted hundred years back then, it may very well last just as long in our times or maybe even longer. So you never know if it will one day be held in YOUR city. Unless you live in a desert tent in an oasis in the middle of Sahara... :O:

Aramike 10-02-09 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Carotio (Post 1182601)
Politics was also involved in 1916, 1940 and 1944, when the games were cancelled because of the two world wars.
Moscow was "cancelled" or rather boycutted by many, because the Soviet Union had just started the invasion of Afghanistan.
The USA is still a nation in war, more or less. Not against another nation, but still having soldiers on foreign soil. You never know if this fact has influenced the IOC members too.
This is the Olympics of modern time. Difficult to completely seperate from politics.
Not like the Olympics of the antique, when all the Greek city states, put their wars to side, made a cease-fire and celebrated the sports in peace and harmony for several hundred years in the valley below Mount Olympia in central Greece...

If it lasted hundred years back then, it may very well last just as long in our times or maybe even longer. So you never know if it will one day be held in YOUR city. Unless you live in a desert tent in an oasis in the middle of Sahara... :O:
Yeah, I have no idea why anyone would think that the Olympics are NOT political. With the monies involved and the built-in international stage, the Olympics are inherently political.

Besides, if they are not political, no one bothered to tell the Palestinians in 1972 ... well before Carter cancelled US participation in the games.

Skybird 10-02-09 02:56 PM
Olympics is a little bit sportsmanship, and much more politics and nationalistic sentiment.

But before anything else it is professional big business - and by that the very olympic idea is led ad absurdum.

Which means there are no olympic games worth the title. To me, today it is one act amongst many other acts forming the international show business, and not different than any other sunday evening stage show. That's also one of the reasons why I do not care about doping anymore, and just want equal chances by legalising doping all together. Genetic doping and what else they have started you cannot control anymore anyway. If there are idiots willing to risk their health and life for their five minutes of fame, for heaven's sake let them - we must not feel concerned as long as we get well-entertained. Panem et circensis, you know. The hero on the podest is the hero in us all.

The olympic idea is as dead as dead can be.

August 10-02-09 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Carotio (Post 1182601)
The USA is still a nation in war, more or less. Not against another nation, but still having soldiers on foreign soil.
Actually not counting embassy guards, the US has had soldiers stationed on foreign soil since the beginning of the Spanish American war.

Dowly 10-02-09 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 1182626)
Actually not counting embassy guards, the US has had soldiers stationed on foreign soil since the beginning of the Spanish American war.
You know what he means.

This is something special at subsim, especially in GT. Whenever someone posts something some here seem to rip the post apart and search for the smallest of excuse to answer it in a way that has almost nothing to do with the original post. Nitpickers heaven this is. :yep:

EDIT: Ow, dont mean you in specific August in the latter part, so dont get mad at me, ok? :)

nikimcbee 10-02-09 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1182632)
You know what he means.

This is something special at subsim, especially in GT. Whenever someone posts something some here seem to rip the post apart and search for the smallest of excuse to answer it in a way that has almost nothing to do with the original post. Nitpickers heaven this is. :yep:

EDIT: Ow, dont mean you in specific August in the latter part, so dont get mad at me, ok? :)
Why would you say that?
Oh, btw, you mis-spelled "don't":haha::haha::haha:

Just kiddin':D

Tribesman 10-02-09 04:53 PM
After the complete mess in Atlanta it wasn't very likely the US would get another go at it so soon.

AVGWarhawk 10-02-09 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1182632)
You know what he means.

This is something special at subsim, especially in GT. Whenever someone posts something some here seem to rip the post apart and search for the smallest of excuse to answer it in a way that has almost nothing to do with the original post. Nitpickers heaven this is. :yep:

EDIT: Ow, dont mean you in specific August in the latter part, so dont get mad at me, ok? :)
Have some soup and calm down. :O:

AVGWarhawk 10-02-09 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1182673)
After the complete mess in Atlanta it wasn't very likely the US would get another go at it so soon.
Yeah, we looked great huh?

Platapus 10-02-09 05:09 PM
I hope that Rio will work out for the Olympics.

Hard to believe that Rio '16 will be the first time any South American country has hosted the Olympics.

Good for them.


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