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Randomizer 09-10-09 06:23 PM

I suspect that I might have been too unforgiving towards U-571 since it is obviously a movie with a message.

Unfortunately the message is...

CAUTION: This Film May Induce Vomiting in the Historically Aware.

On the plus side U-571 does allow one to use "execrable"* in a sentence.

Cheers

*Execrable
–adjective 1.utterly detestable; abominable; abhorrent.

Damo 09-11-09 12:29 PM

I watched this some time back, thankfully before Das Boot as I'd have probably turned over and it is a load of Hollywood poppycock. As well as the first few minutes where the DD miraculously goes home for lunch the ending scene after they destroy the German ship and abandon the uboat in a raft the scene pulls all the way back to reveal a completely empty ocean, no debris or rafts or survivors from the sunken warship. Pity they never had the Lifeboats and Debris mod...

:down:

tomfon 09-11-09 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damo (Post 1170308)
Pity they never had the Lifeboats and Debris mod...

:haha:

Nice!

Bosje 09-11-09 04:03 PM

the film does provide some decent soundbites for SH4 mods though

apart from that, just another bit of excrement in a long line of hollywood 'alternative history' trash

wouldn't it be nice if, in Saving Private Ryan, the camera panned to the right a bit and you'd see a brit walking into the shot saying:
'Hi, excuse me but the boys wanted to say hello. Couple thousand of us just over there, you know, some brits, french, polish, dutch, norwegians etc. what's the word for us? Oh yes, Allies, that's it. We've been doing this for a few years now but thanks for popping over and helping out a bit'

(a joke from a gig by Eddie Izzard)

kaptkirkU4467 09-11-09 05:41 PM

Best part of the move....the black screen when its over.:yep:

flakmonkey 09-12-09 04:35 AM

To be honest i quite liked u-571, you just have to remember ITS A MOVIE NOT A DOCUMENTARY. Although i too wondered where that destroyer went after they surfaced?!?

Even if you hate the film, you have to admit the u-boat interior set is superb and easilly as good as the one used in Das Boot (made by the same people if you watch the making-of).

cawimmer430 09-14-09 09:48 AM

U-571? Awful film.

Worst part was actually the lone German destroyer out there in the middle of the Atlantic. What the hell was that thing doing out there all by itself!?

Another thing that puzzled me was the single-engined enemy fighter aircraft patrolling the Atlantic. The Germans didn't have any single-engined fighters with such a range (even with drop tanks). Ocean patrol was done by FW-200 Condors and Ju-88's for the most part while coastal patrolling was done by the Heinkel He-115.

Schroeder 09-14-09 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1169873)
Goddammit! I was sure the correct one would've been 'Wasserbomben'. :damn:

Wasserbomben is the plural of Wasserbombe, so you were correct too.;)

Feuer Frei! 09-15-09 02:49 AM

Aahhh yessss. the infamous movie U-571 :down: I think i was extremely lucky and did my research as i do with all movies but in particular WW2 movies. (I'm very fussy with war movies, and why not).
So, having said that, when i read reviews and plots from various accredited sources i told myself "No way am I watching that"

My doubts about that movie have been vindicated so many times it seems....

i quote one reviewer:
"May be the shoddiest and most incoherent piece of big-budget action moviemaking since "Armageddon"


But seriously, that's not all that's wrong with this film, heck if I am going to see a war movie I would appreciate the movie actually being based at the very least "mostly" on fact, and certainly not incorrectly accrediting successes to any one side of the war, whatever war that may have been......
There are a few ww2 movies that spring to mind, of course Das Boot is a classic, but also for the reason that it's depicted from the German side and it shows another face or side to the war, and heck did it do it well! No favouring of one side or another....(that for me is a big factor)

Now if war movies could be like that, well....count me in!


I think a war movie with biases removed for a start and then actually being "mostly" based on fact and the "claims of successes" actually being accredited to the right side get 10 points with me straight up :yeah:

Bosje 09-15-09 09:02 AM

yup, we see a U-boat machine-gunning survivors
then we see an american officer in a german boat successfully shooting torpedoes at another U-boat and blowing it up
then we see that the only other forces out there are all german, all of whom are after our american heroes:rotfl2:

ah never mind, i shouldn't even get worked up over this. i did actually watch it 3 times and the first time i knew little about the submarine war, and i actually enjoyed the film (lots of action, which is the point of the film)

just like 'Below' (I think it's called). mainly crap but i liked it as a thriller
not quite sure what a US sub is doing out in the atlantic sinking allied ships by mistake, but it's an entertaining thing to watch (and it's about the scary bits, not about the history bits)

so to summarize... this is an utterly redundant post :salute:

Red Heat 09-15-09 04:25 PM

Historical speaking its a **** film...
and the end of the story everybody knows... :gulp:

Rhodes 09-15-09 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosje (Post 1172420)
yup, we see a U-boat machine-gunning survivors
then we see an american officer in a german boat successfully shooting torpedoes at another U-boat and blowing it up
then we see that the only other forces out there are all german, all of whom are after our american heroes:rotfl2:

ah never mind, i shouldn't even get worked up over this. i did actually watch it 3 times and the first time i knew little about the submarine war, and i actually enjoyed the film (lots of action, which is the point of the film)

just like 'Below' (I think it's called). mainly crap but i liked it as a thriller
not quite sure what a US sub is doing out in the atlantic sinking allied ships by mistake, but it's an entertaining thing to watch (and it's about the scary bits, not about the history bits)

so to summarize... this is an utterly redundant post :salute:

Join the club! Exactly like me.
But I still like Below as a movie, thriller that only one or two cast members survived etc!
And if I knew what I know now when I went see U-571, I had :har::har::har: all the movie and argue why I was doing it with who I was at the time.

Bosje 09-15-09 07:01 PM

aye

do we leave it at this?

lol :arrgh!:


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