The Dutch system:

http://www.justlanded.com/english/Ne...lth/Healthcare

They really did leave something off of this chart ...

The illegal aliens ... :yep:

The border patrol will have to now ask everyone entering the United States if they have the mandatory insurance.

All international flight attendants will be required to ask, "Coffee, tea, milk, soda, mandatory health insurance ... :salute:

Not true with company insurance ... I know many that get all of the benefits they have coming to them, like neck massages from looking at a computer screen all day (which is okay with me).

You are also forgetting dental insurance now that's something that should be mandatory

That's true for any insurance. Heck, it's what the whole idea of what insurance is. I don't see the problem here.

Good point Geetrue....just another government program to be exploited by those that know how to work the system. I know a few myself. :down:

What are they gonna do? Get their teeth knocked out intentionally? Or are you speaking of the whole plan here?

The whole plan. You will see an increase of people needing perscription pain medication. The Oxycotin folks. It happens now in the ER and now it will grow into a larger problem. I foresee fictious monetary compensation claims by doctors coming also. This happens already but will become worse as the government pencil pusher will just approve it. After all, it is good enough for government work.

Sure that sounds great but I wonder how is a private plan supposed to compete with an entity that does not have to make a profit?

In other words private health care will be driven out of buisness.

I know this is hard to believe, but I know a drug dealer (not me no siree) that trades pot for prescription drugs especially pain medications.

Medicare fraud has uncovered doctors offices that are never open, but bill the medicare as if they were. These are not isolated cases.

Oh yeah, geetrue, just the tip of the iceberg now. Wait until the government is involved...:88)

In the end, yes. Why should my boss continue to pay for our own healthcare policy when he does not have to nor has to worry about it anymore? He does'nt and he won't.

In other words, if I am covering my family through my private insurer, I do not want the govt to pull more money from me to cover those who use the govt. health care plan. The govt health care plan should be funded by those who use it.

If there are enough people like you who prefer their private health insurers, then they will stay around.

You can't say that the government insurer will be awful then in the next breath say that it will be so good that it will drive everybody else out of business.

Yes they should but it is not looking that way. Either way, we(me and you) are paying on average $1600.00/insured/year to cover those that are not covered already. This is obtained through premiums, medical cost and perscription costs. The hospitals certainly do not suck it up for humanity. One wonders then, do you and I get a reduced cost/year if we carry our own after the government starts their program? Probably not.

You have to understand, what is keeping large companies from not just turning over healthcare of each and every employee to the government? Nothing is. Companies can get rid of entire departments for employee benefits. Expenditures for all the paperwork, etc. are now off the books. The employees healthcare is now the governments headache.