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Sailor Steve 07-03-09 02:33 PM

I've put up this argument myself, two years ago. Last year someone else said it and I applauded and agreed, and posted a link to my old article. It's one of my favorite stories.

I do, however, have to disagree with a couple of the summations and conclusions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1127822)
The Declaration of Independence was not what declared our independence (even back then congress had problems entitling stuff). It was the Lee Resolution. The Declaration of Independence was a document designed to rally support from the citizens on the decision Congress made on 2 July 1776.

Lee proposed his Resolution on June 7, and the Continental Congress agreed that they would vote for independence once they had a proper declaration. So technically you could say that June 7 was the real day. Or June 10, when the 'Committee of Five' was appointed to write the document.

I completely agree that July 2 was the day they actually voted to be Independent, but the statment "The Declaration of Independence was not what declared our independence (even back then congress had problems entitling stuff). It was the Lee Resolution", is emphatically not true. The Lee Resolution proposed independence, but the whole point was to tell the world why we were already fighting (just reread the preamble). The actually declaration (telling the world) was published on July 5, and at the top it held the statement "In Congress, July 4, 1776".

mr chris 07-03-09 02:50 PM

We have a American camp on base and they are throwing a party on the beach in camp tomorrow. Im looking forward to my first 4th of July party even if iam English.

Sea Demon 07-03-09 05:54 PM

Happy 4th USA. I hope many of my fellow Americans actually take the time this year to understand and reflect on what Independance and Liberty actually means. For all you Americans who value freedom, and have respect for the liberty of others (including their property) I wish you a good day and friendship.

For any far left liberal democrat voters, Obama worshippers, or big government solution types......this is not your holiday. If you want the government to take over responsibility for your health care, or you want an intrusive government tell you and your neighbors what lightbulbs people can use in their homes, you have no business waving little American flags this Saturday.

Platapus 07-03-09 06:54 PM

Well that did not take long. :nope:

Onkel Neal 07-03-09 07:17 PM

Happy Independence Day, red, white, and blue forever! :shucks:

Letum 07-03-09 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1128493)
Happy Independence Day, red, white, and blue forever!

I knew you Americans would come back into the fold one day! :D
Red, white, and blue forever!

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heartc 07-03-09 07:37 PM

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Happy 4th July and Congrats for a 233 years old Republican Democracy!


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Onkel Neal 07-03-09 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1128494)
I knew you Americans would come back into the fold one day! :D
Red, white, and blue forever!

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I tipped my hat just the same :)

AVGWarhawk 07-03-09 10:11 PM

Happy 4th :salute:

CastleBravo 07-03-09 10:31 PM

On this day of rememberance I pray we also look at why this day exists.
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Not abortion, accomodation to the government, and the mailase of debt.

stabiz 07-04-09 05:18 AM

Happy birthday, US!:woot:

Contact 07-04-09 06:23 AM

Happy Independance Day to all Americans!

Make sure you celebrate it accordingly :woot:

Takeda Shingen 07-04-09 06:45 AM

A happy Independence Day to all!

U-104 07-04-09 07:00 AM

Happy Independance Day USA! :salute::woot::yeah:

Jimbuna 07-04-09 09:28 AM

Have a great day America http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...lies/Party.gif

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