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CastleBravo 06-26-09 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1123788)
What do you want. You have how many trillions of debts - and you still want to spend as if nothing has happened? The only thing that is to be discussed is wether his other spending projects are wisely chosen or not. Being bancrupt and still wanting to buy half of all the globe's military does not go well together.

I'm sorry to have to be on you Mr. Skybird, but Mr. Obama supported and signed into law, more US spending in his first 100 days in office than all other presidents allowed spent during their entire terms, combined. I know of no families who can spend their way out of debt, yet our president seems to think it is possible. How can anyone support that? Unless of course the decline of the US into a debtor nation is attractive. That seems to be the case with Mr. Obama., and he is acting on that perspective.

Morts 06-26-09 04:50 PM

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He's Barack Oooobaaamaaaa !

Skybird 06-26-09 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1124297)
I'm sorry to have to be on you Mr. Skybird, but Mr. Obama supported and signed into law, more US spending in his first 100 days in office than all other presidents allowed spent during their entire terms, combined. I know of no families who can spend their way out of debt, yet our president seems to think it is possible. How can anyone support that? Unless of course the decline of the US into a debtor nation is attractive. That seems to be the case with Mr. Obama., and he is acting on that perspective.

Hm...

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Originally Posted by Skybird
The only thing that is to be discussed is wether his other spending projects are wisely chosen or not.


CastleBravo 06-26-09 05:23 PM

Spending for spending's sake makes no scence unless one is about making people impoverished. Am I wrong?

Of the 7.8 billion spent on the stimulus only 190.1 million has been allocated. Something is going on.

geetrue 06-26-09 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1124339)
Spending for spending's sake makes no scence unless one is about making people impoverished. Am I wrong?

Of the 7.8 billion spent on the stimulus only 190.1 million has been allocated. Something is going on.


What about all of the jobs this so called stimulus bill was suppose to create?

Uncle Sam is hiring I hear and growing by leaps and bounds, mostly for next years census is the only explanation they give.

Zachstar 06-26-09 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1123608)
Hey, that is just great especially when NK said it would nuke our butts if we farted the wrong way. :shifty: Man, Obama gets more brilliantly stupid with every pen stroke.

What advantage does the F-22 have over other fighters in north Korea?

Lets take a brand new fighter and risk many millions being blown to bits just to give the migs no chance to see a missile coming their way?

While I think the ground war will be difficult. The airwar will be a cakewalk. This is not falcon 4.

Zachstar 06-26-09 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1123777)
He wouldn't have to block the whole bill if he had a line item veto.

Are you frakking insane? Do you HONESTLY want the President to have THAT much power?

Seriously I voted and supported Obama but would NEVER support such a measure for him!

Max2147 06-26-09 09:58 PM

The air war will be a cakewalk.... against other fighters. But these days the greatest threat to a fighter isn't other fighters, it's SAMs. The F-22's stealthiness allows it to operate safely in a SAM infested environment, where our current generation fighters like the F-15 would get mauled.

I think the Air Force ought to acquire more F-22's. I just think that decision should come from Gates, not from some self-interested Congressmen who have drunk the Lockheed Kool-Aid.

Skybird 06-27-09 03:37 PM

First you pay for the beers you already had - then you can get more beer if then you can pay for that, too. Just getting more beer for free, with plenty of unpayed beer on your bill already - that is a dream.

Metaphorically spoken.

Call it holding a diet.

In the past 500 years, several european nations went bancrupt and had to go back to the starting line and completely relaunch their financial systems, always at the cost of ruined people and at the cost of former creditors, of course. The reason was always the same: excessive, military spending and burning more money for a bigger military than one's economy could afford to maintain. Empires and dynasties fell for that reason.

But if you want to learn that lesson today, it seems you must not really step into a waiting line, that low interest seems to be. Well, you'll reap like you have sowed and when you have a weak stand while pumping your biceps and chest muscles, you nevertheless fall over easily.

Redefining more moderate priorities that can be supported - this is advise of the day, not only for the Us but the EU as well. Because he who defends all in the end can defend nothing and looses it all.

SteamWake 06-27-09 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1124781)
Call it holding a diet..

If its a diet why is the budget so god damn fat?

geetrue 06-27-09 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1124435)
Are you frakking insane? Do you HONESTLY want the President to have THAT much power?

Seriously I voted and supported Obama but would NEVER support such a measure for him!

I didn't vote for him, but I agree ... besides it's not up to us with the Supreme Court already saying no to the line veto vote. If there was such a thing the House and the Senate would have even more pork barrel items in it just to see what they could get away with.

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1124786)
If its a diet why is the budget so god damn fat?

Since when is cussing allowed around here?

SteamWake 06-27-09 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 1124802)
Since when is cussing allowed around here?

Since they censored my dream about a cat.

CastleBravo 06-27-09 10:10 PM

I love Mr. Obama and his wife and daughters. Stop talking about them!!

No one ever spoke about Mr. Bush, and his family.


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