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Sailor Steve 06-16-09 02:04 PM

Neal, how can you say this is nothing? If they take my pocket knife, will my steak knives be next? My steak itself? What will I eat? Will I be able to wear my machete on the street? It has a sheath. Will I have to get a license to carry a concealed fork?

HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF FREAKING OUT? IT FREAKING TICKS ME OFF!

CastleBravo 06-16-09 02:41 PM

I heard some where that is why we have butter knives today. Some French king was threatened by his guests bringing traditional knives to the table. He instituded rounded less leathal cutlery be provided.

Skybird 06-16-09 02:42 PM

Forbidding pocket knifes - in a country were semi-automatic rifles are allowed and an estimated minimum of 80 million firearms is legally owned by householders.

Just imagining it makes me burst with laughter. :haha:

Boys, get a Swiss officer knife. It makes you feel good. Really. It makes something with you. The shark in the sea, the bear in the forest, the plane in the vertical dive, the splinter in your eye - you know you are prepared for everything, no matter what!

Do not come between me and my Swiss pocket knife!

Now to something different. I also have a compass. A Swiss army compass, by Recta...

AVGWarhawk 06-16-09 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1118670)
Forbidding pocket knifes - in a country were semi-automatic rifles are allowed and an estimated minimum of 80 million firearms is legally owned by householders.

Just imagining it makes me burst with laughter. :haha:

Boys, get a Swiss officer knife. It makes you feel good. Really. It makes something with you. The shark in the sea, the bear in the forest, the plane in the vertical dive, the splinter in your eye - you know you are prepared for everything, no matter what!

Do not come between me and my Swiss pocket knife!

Now to something different. I also have a compass. A Swiss army compass, by Recta...

It is kind of funny Skybird if you think about it.

CastleBravo 06-16-09 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1118672)
It is kind of funny Skybird if you think about it.

Not as funny when you realize that even the Swiss Army Knife or two x four when used properly is a deadly weapon that can be purchased in the local Walmart, or Home Depot.

AVGWarhawk 06-16-09 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1118691)
Not as funny when you realize that even the Swiss Army Knife or two x four when used properly is a deadly weapon that can be purchased in the local Walmart, or Home Depot.

The point is taking away a knife yet you can go to Walmart and pick up a 30/30:doh: It does not make sense.

Platapus 06-16-09 03:24 PM

A few years ago I was visiting an ex-coworker in a government facility. I saw him trying to unpack this mountain of cardboard boxes by stabbing them with a ball point pen and then ripping the cardboard off.

I handed him my Swiss Army Knife but was told that this was not allowed in this facility.

WTF?

This government agency had a zero tolerance to any type of weapon. I have been carrying a SAK since I was 8 years old. With the exception of Basic Training, I can't remember any period of my life when I did not have a SAK on me.

Needless to say, I violated federal law by quickly slicing open all of his boxes and then escaping to saner organizations.

Banning Swiss Army Knives in the facility? My dyin arse! :nope:

CastleBravo 06-16-09 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1118692)
The point is taking away a knife yet you can go to Walmart and pick up a 30/30:doh: It does not make sense.

Since 1994 attempting to remove firearms from the US population has been and is a nightmare politically. But like everything else it is being attempted in small, 'slippery slope', intervals.

FIREWALL 06-16-09 04:16 PM

I don't carry a pocket knife. I have a very sharp p38 on my keyring that will cut string, clean under my nails and will slit a throat from ear to ear.

And it's made it thru AP security for as long as I can remember.:DL


Onkel Neal 06-16-09 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1118631)
Neal, how can you say this is nothing? If they take my pocket knife, will my steak knives be next? My steak itself? What will I eat? Will I be able to wear my machete on the street? It has a sheath. Will I have to get a license to carry a concealed fork?

HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF FREAKING OUT? IT FREAKING TICKS ME OFF!


We all have to go vegetarian, I suppose.

Skybird 06-16-09 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1118739)
We all have to go vegetarian, I suppose.

What - no more football...?

Skybird 06-16-09 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1118691)
Not as funny when you realize that even the Swiss Army Knife or two x four when used properly is a deadly weapon that can be purchased in the local Walmart, or Home Depot.


You can even use a pencil as a Kubotan, which can be - if properly handled - as painful and as lethal as you want.

FIREWALL 06-16-09 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1118732)
I don't carry a pocket knife. I have a very sharp p38 on my keyring that will cut string, clean under my nails and will slit a throat from ear to ear.

And it's made it thru AP security for as long as I can remember.:DL


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5404/p38add.jpg


http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml

CastleBravo 06-16-09 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1118745)
You can even use a pencil as a Kubotan, which can be - if properly handled - as painful and as lethal as you want.

I think that is my point. To make one thing less or more lethal than the other is merely a matter of efficiency, not lethality.

Skybird 06-16-09 04:56 PM

But it costs much more time and determination to learn how to use a Kubotan for defence or "behavior enforcement", than it takes to learn how to use a gun or a knife for killing. Every retarded idiot can shoot a gun at somebody standing at a social distance, that must not be learned in principle, you must not be a trained athlete nor a healthy person or a blessed genius to do that. It must not even be explained to almost nobody. Learning to effectively use a Kubotan, or a spoon or a pencil, takes much more investement. And a sword also is a dedicated "to kill only" item, like a gun. Nevertheless it is much more demanding to learn how to master a sword, than it is to effectively use a gun. Tools and weapons are not the same. A tool has a diverse range of possible uses, a weapon only one. thertefore it makes little sense to compare the reduction of availability of weapons with the reduction in avalabuility of any tool. "Cars and traffic accidents" is often given as an antidot-argument in the debate over firearms. And that argument for that reason never has worked - it simply makes no sense to compare tools and weapons.


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