Watch you don't go scaring your daughters with that thing :DL

2009 Germany's game of the year! TV Pong

http://www.mndl.hu/files/pong.jpg

It does not get more radical than this!

ROFL! :har:

This !

How in the world could an attentive parent not know their child is planning on a killing spree?

I'm not so sure about this.
Secrets can be kept from the best of parents, especially if your deranged
enough to go on a killing spree.

OT as far as Germany goes, but I always found it funny that the guy who shot John Lennon thought there were tiny little gnomes who lived in his walls and had a great civilization there... and he'd play music for them.:haha::doh:

As a kid once and a parent now. Yes, there was plenty of crap my parents did not know about...not until the charges were brought up at trial:oops:

Although I like to think I know everything my daughters are doing I can not be 100% sure I do know everything. Hell, two weeks ago I found out my daughter was watching Criminal Minds. Christ, some of the episodes scare the crap out of me...she is only 14. Needless to say the TV got the parental control activated. ;)

and school shootings as well im afraid.

people dont realize but its not these games that cause kids to snap... its the constant teasing and rejection from their peers that causes these kids to flip out and kill half their class mates.

better ban movies and songs that deal with mayhem too and burn violent books... i hate to see Germany go all the way back 65 years to that school of thought.

:nope:

Cell Phones are next :03:

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09155/975068-100.stm

btw why does a 6th grader need a cell phone anyhow.

They need to call their bookie:D

I'd be asking why the need to use a stun gun on a kid simply for pushing....reasonable force? :hmmm:

stun guns are a whole other issue.

they have given the police an ability to use non-lethal force at will, in some cases - even when a perp is completely subdued.

for many officers this has become a crutch upon which they now stand.

when in doubt, they find themselves in a situation in which the old guard would have handled completely differently - now they just zap the guy into submission.

Sounds just a tad excessive to me....taking into account the details posted.

I'm not against this German move in general. I am against politicians trying to make it appear that this step alone solves a problem. It is a cultural problem, and video games are a part of modern culture and thus probably are only one part of that problem. A lot of other things must be adressed as well, as well as the social climate of family life that too often is no longer able to counter destructive influences in juvenile's life.

It also is not only the content of movies, games or TV, songs or books being a problem, but the ammount of time people expose themselves to these influences.

It also is about the fetish our modern media culture makes of displays of violence in general. This gets excused by that the industry just delivers what the market demands.

May I suggest the new and revolutionary thought then that maybe not every ####### demand of the "market" should be met by the industry. Drug dealers argue with market demands when selling heroin to 14 year olds. That one can make a fortune of selling something that does damage is no excuse to sell it, or even produce it. That includes games that glorify inhuman violence and show it in explicit detail - but is not limited to just these.

And did I already mention that there are elections in Germany this year? Never underestimate the mass suicide of braincells in an election year.

skybird... i would spend less time blaming violent movies and video games and more time concentrating on the social life of the youth in question.

As a kid, i watched R-Rated movies like Alien, Predator, all the nightmare on elm street flicks etc - some of those films i watched as early as 6 years old.

furthermore, as soon as video games were a hot item, i played all the violent ones... some were cool, some sucked, some you were just randomly wasting people with a shot gun.

through 6th 7th and 8th grade i was teased without mercy by a group of mouth breathers sometimes to the point of serious public humiliation in front of the whole school.

I grew up in a pro-gun home, i was an experienced hunter, shooter, marksman etc even at the age of 12-13 years old i was no stranger to any of the 70 some odd firearms in my home ranging from .22 pistols, to .45s to semi automatic shotguns to fully automatic weapons.

to say the least i was a pressure cooker - a perfect recipe for a school massacre - i had the means to pull it off - i had the capability - i had the proper motive everything had fallen into place except for one small series of things...

my parents gave me a happy home, we ate dinners at night together - usually - we went to the movies together and vacations together.

through it all i had a couple of best friends who were blind to the taunting i received at school, and who always made me feel welcomed and cared for no matter the circumstances.

fortunately as high school started i grew out of the awkward stage of life as most youths do, the teasing and taunting ended and before anyone knew it i was just another one of the "in crowd".

so despite having exposure to violent films and games, despite having the ingredients common to a kid who snaps and massacres his school - I didnt do it - and i credit that to a lot of what i mentioned above.

video games dont lead kids to kill their class mates - they target these people because 22-23 days out of any given month these people are making that kids life a literal living hell from which he has no escape. the child is usually not reached a point of maturity in life to figure out that if he blows away his teacher and class mates with a 12 gauge - thats permanent revenge... not a temporary one.

EDIT:

I guess PONG or perhaps SPACE INVADERS on the atari caused this kid to snap...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkway...chool_shooting

its no new concept that people (regardless of age) flip out and kill their peers. video games or not