In what way is Western Civilization "unable and unwilling to defend itself"?

It seams to have been excelling in both it's preservation, refinement and
propagation for the last ~1700 years.

My English is not that good but i will try to do my best.

2 Skybird
I think psyhological help (instead of beating) will do for starters, but that is my opinion, i agree with the rest you wrote sir ;).

2 HunterICX
I will rather say: "act of a poisoning mind, wich leads to stupidity".
I personaly faced with thise sort of cr"p when i was a kid so i`am not suprised. Antisemitism is a same old story, a sad story.

That all i watned to say :salute:. Take care ;)

Does it? I think we have been in a steep decline for the last 30 years. I think I even remember a country that has introduced the Sharia into it's legal system.... :hmm2:

We are allowing everyone to take a shot at us just for political correctness.

And it has declined, and enthusiastically embraced what wishes to destroy it in just the past 17 years or so.

Actually it may be not 17 but a few couple of years more, but the point is so nice to make when you talked of 1700 years. :O:

I have been a psychologist, so I reserve the right to disagree for professional reasons. :D Political radicals and religious zealots cannot be reached by psychotherapy, or reasonable argument. It's a waste of time. Thats why such people are called radicals and zealots. They are imune to reason and argument.

Anyhow, let's do not get too obsessed with the loose wording of mine back then. I think everybody knows quite clearly at what direction I was aiming.

Declined my bum.
People of conservative natures have been saying such things since the dawn
of time. For some the golden age is in the past and the dystopia in the future
what ever age they live in.

Western civilization has practically been defined by it's assimilation of anything
and everything. There have been times when practically all countries that
had adopted western civilization have been destroyed, but still the idea
survives.
It is no utopia, but has never been in better shape.

Due to my well-known criticism of failed integration policy, failed policy of multiculturalism , spreading Islam, and the EU in it's many implications, you are not surprised that I could not disagree more. I do not see the West assimilating anymore. I see it being dissolved, rejecting any own identity based on history (which often gets rewritten or simply ignored and forgotten), rotting from within, perverting it's former positve ideals into hurtful extremes, hijacking accepted labels for content of exactly the opposite meaning, and falling prey to foreign conquesting culture.

Sunset in the West.

To get back to the thread topic....

The idiots that did that deserve to be hung out to rot. The fact the may not belive that something happened doesn't give them the right to terrorize others.:stare:

Did you just quote uncle adolf from one of his rallies ?

No, I think he is just observing his environment here in Germany.:shifty:

Never having met your family, I honestly can say: No.

@Skybird :I think that they prabably saw the same shock\holocaust movies as the rest of the German youth get shoved down there throats being they were Austrians and Austria has the same sick policy.

You also say "Fashists are not just criminals. They are by ideology enemies of the state/nation/constitutional order that they want to destroy. they do not want to ignore or break laws - they want to destroy law itself." But didnt the Nazi's say the same thing about the other side example,

"Communists\capitalism are not just criminals. They are by ideology enemies of the state/nationional order that they want to destroy. They do not want to ignore or break laws - They want to destroy law itself."

I think its the parents fault for their childrens failings. Its not up to some book, movie, song to teach the youth right from wrong. Its in the family structure that they are taught the rules of society. With family values eroding its no suprise kids are becoming Anarchists, Nazi's, Communists, Drug abusers etc.

[QUOTENever having met your family, I honestly can say: No. ][/QUOTE]
Sorry old boy but there are no Austrian ex corporals in my family .
Might I suggest that you look closer to home ?

Nice try to twist what I said, but I think the Nazis did not depend on the modern German constitution (that happens to celebrate it's 60th birthday next week, btw.). So their defiinition of what threatens the state must have been different than mine, for "state" had a different meaning for them than for me, and most people today. One could even say that there idea of dstate and our idea of state are almost mutually exclusive.

I would love to threaten and destroy the state of the Nazis. I try to defend and raise the state of the past 60 years that came after them, and it's form of how it was meant to be by its founders after WWII.

However I agree that capitalism is destructive to any national and state-liike order - if it is allowed to run completerly ungoverned and unmonitored and fully liberal in understanding. Capitalism in its pure form is the ultimate form of egoism, but a community depends on a minimum of altruistic mindset of it'S members, else the idea of "comunity" is impossible to realise. Also, Capitalism, is a completly material ideology not caring for any non-material values like morals, ethics, and philosphical ideas and values. Materialism simply denies that these things exist or should be payed attention to, since they have no material(istic) correlate (money, for example).

Communism to me is as materialistic an ideology as is capitalism. So in principle, the same criticism fits. This is what Marx has not realised, although he was a very sharp-minded observer of capitalism. His observations are worth to be remembered. Just the conclusions on communism he drew from them are wrong. I personally am conviocned that with humans, truly communistic spocieties will never work if they exceed a certain, relatively small size, that maybe is even smaller than the critical size a community must not exceed for being able to maintain a truly functional democratic system.

Too huge societies always seem to lead into more or less hidden feudal structures and absolutistic forms of controlling them. The modern West in my percepetion already is more feudal/absolutistic/oligarchic than democratic/liberal/free.

Might I suggest you simply sit in your sandbox and pick your nose and collect you boogers in silence instead of throwing them at others? Running around and calling others you do not like as Nazis, does not say much about them, but all the more about yourself. ;)