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Franklin Van Valkenburg 03-18-09 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thyro (Post 1067785)
I think K-19 is WIP by a Russian guy...

also they were working on british U-class and other russian sub (can't remember its class)

I haven't seen any signs of life regarding the Hotel Class, so I started building one. I have seen the pics of the U-Class though.
I'm also working on an Oscar II Class for those interested in the Kursk.

tomagabriel 03-20-09 03:35 AM

Progress on the Skipjack (sorry for not being more active in discussions, I am a bit busy with a lot of personal stuff - but work on the sub goes pretty well). Cutting the torpedo doors was like HELL. I hope you like the job.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/138...jack3d1.th.jpghttp://img16.imageshack.us/img16/635...jack3d4.th.jpghttp://img22.imageshack.us/img22/314...jack3d2.th.jpghttp://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3737/skipjack3d3.th.jpg

thyro 03-20-09 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tomagabriel (Post 1068734)
Progress on the Skipjack (sorry for not being more active in discussions, I am a bit busy with a lot of personal stuff - but work on the sub goes pretty well). Cutting the torpedo doors was like HELL. I hope you like the job.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/138...jack3d1.th.jpghttp://img16.imageshack.us/img16/635...jack3d4.th.jpghttp://img22.imageshack.us/img22/314...jack3d2.th.jpghttp://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3737/skipjack3d3.th.jpg

it is looking great :salute:

keltos01 03-20-09 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thyro (Post 1067785)
I think K-19 is WIP by a Russian guy...

also they were working on british U-class and other russian sub (can't remember its class)

It's Dagon :
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=139783&page=4

keltos

keltos01 03-20-09 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tomagabriel (Post 1068734)
Cutting the torpedo doors was like HELL. I hope you like the job.

I know... then you need to animate them ;)

I use the boolean function in 3DS, save the cutout as new door .obj and replace the existing ones with those.

keltos

chanbasti 03-20-09 09:37 AM

don't mean to nag, but to the best of my knowledge the torpedo doors on the skipjack were located amidships (ca. halfway between the front edge of the sail and the bow of the ship (sry i don't have any more exact info)) , cause there was a big sonar in the bow dome. IDK if it's possible to do this placement of doors with SH4, just trying to help.

Also is there any type of modern sub model out for SH3? just wondering cause i don't have SH4 yet.

good luck with this project, i'll be getting it for my soon to be bought copy of SH4

tomagabriel 03-20-09 11:15 AM

@cutting the doors.

I tried too to use booleans. Problem was that the high concentration of wedges in that area made the booleans work in a totally uncontrollable fashion(instead of doing clean cuts it was just messing my hull). Probably there is a way to force them work, but in may case it didn't. So what I did was to use "cut" and do it by hand - fairly fast but after an unpleasant failure with booleans.

@ the positioning of the torpedo doors,

I too was a bit confused about where to put them. My decision was based on some schematics here(http://ussskipjack.org/) and also on many, many plastic models displaying the torpedo doors (a link to such a picture is on the first page in this topic). I also read that Skipjack had a spherical array(or some precursor), but it was probably loacated differently than it is in the LosAngeles class.

chanbasti 03-20-09 11:00 PM

i take back what i said. looks like the tubes are in the bows after all. still can't wait to see what this bay looks like when she's done.

tomagabriel 03-24-09 06:51 AM

Progress report...

Not much to show (cause I'm a sadistic modder :88)).

Skipjack is going well (sea trialling for some good days already). Just after the hellish torpedo doors cut-away, I noticed :damn: that Skipjack had 6 torpedo tubes, and not 4.:damn: Back to the cutting board. Made 6 tubes. Now I am trying to add them physically-in-game to the sub. Logically the job is done, they appear in the load-out screen. I have to add the 3d models with s3d and that should do it. Hopefully there won't be any setbacks. I'm telling you. This little nuke sub was a beast. By the way, I have used stock periscopes now, not to conflict with other subs anymore. The radar is universal though, like in the case of Ohio. Three torpedos are usable: Mk14, Mk16, Mk48.

Going back to 160m depth...

wh1skea 03-24-09 08:57 AM

Its funny that there is mention of the Skipjack class not being painted with red anti-fouling paint. If you go to Navsource.org, and look at the pics of USS Scamp, you will see black over red as she slides down the ways. These boats started as black on top, but as with most black subs, the black faded by saltwater and exposure. I would say, if you need reference pics, check Navsource.

Also, Torpedo doors on the bow, and 7 bladed prop, verified by drydock pics of Scamp.

tonibamestre 03-24-09 04:15 PM

Hi Tomagabriel,
Im following your excellent job concerning the Skipjack.So,after that,would be possible a diesel-electric french sub like Dolphin or Agosta class?

tomagabriel 03-25-09 04:23 AM

@wh1skea

I am beginning to think some characteristics of Skipjack submarines are not characteristic for the entire class. I saw the fotos you mentioned. Concerning the propeller, could you post a link on the 7 bladed prop? I am asking because I saw several photos of a Skipjack with a 5 bladed prop.

@tonibamestre

Could you post a link for the Dolphin submarine? As for what to do next, anything is possible. Spare time is the only problem.

wh1skea 03-25-09 06:03 AM

7 blades

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0858821.jpg
(photo from NAVSOURCE.ORG)

According to my dad, who served from 78 to 88 on subs, the subs were usually launched with the 5-blade props to test speed. Once speed trials were finished, they would switch the prop to a 7-blade, with is supposed to be quieter. At least thats what he was told when USS Louisville did her sea trials. Also, dad served on USS Sculpin, so its nice to see a Skipjack model being made :D

tomagabriel 03-25-09 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wh1skea (Post 1071603)
7 blades

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0858821.jpg
(photo from NAVSOURCE.ORG)

According to my dad, who served from 78 to 88 on subs, the subs were usually launched with the 5-blade props to test speed. Once speed trials were finished, they would switch the prop to a 7-blade, with is supposed to be quieter. At least thats what he was told when USS Louisville did her sea trials. Also, dad served on USS Sculpin, so its nice to see a Skipjack model being made :D

What you say makes sense. I was expecting something like this. I like very much this sub, so I would like to do my best with it. Do you have any screens with interior views? I would do some new interior for it if I get my hand on some pictures. Probably it would not look like the real deal, but it would be better than the old WWII aspect.

wh1skea 03-25-09 12:16 PM

Here are the links to the Skipjack subs at Navsource:

USS Skipjack
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08585.htm

USS Scamp
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08588a.htm

USS Scorpion
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08589a.htm

USS Sculpin
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08590.htm

USS Shark
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08591.htm

USS Snook
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08592.htm

Sadly, there is only one interior shot on those pages, and it is of the Wardroom. Any pics my dad had was lost when him and my mom divorced.

Found this site that has some interior shots:
http://www.uss-scamp.com/


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