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Wolfehunter 01-28-09 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Zachstar
August I believe that was a SNL skit or somthing or another.

You ought to see the whole thing. It is funny as hell. She even tries to install a C-band dish!

Thanks for the heads up Zach. That pic was off your link so I'm wondering if they even know where it comes from.

Seriously, I just installed a couple of those converters at an elderly couples house last month and I was not impressed by the picture quality of broadcast digital at all.

Unless you live right next to the broadcast tower it's going to be too frustrating to watch. A little snow on the picture, typical for broadcast reception, is one thing but freezes and loss of sound will get irritating real quick.

What makes you think and elderly can see properly in a HD video? You really believe they can see the hair sticking out of the guys nose? Come one.. As long as they can see something its damb good. :rotfl:

For example.

My mother in law has a nice HD TV LCD screen with HD cable. BUT her converter is only analog. Get the picture. She orders her wrestling on pay per view and thats it. She don't care about the sweat drops flinging across the screen. As long as she can see hunky men swinging she's a happy woman. :D

Zachstar 01-28-09 09:52 PM

Tell her to get Direct TV or Dish Network.

Then she can see more of the action. :P

Dont accept hooking up analog cable to a HD TV. It is just silly when the Sat companies are offering better rates for all digital and HD packages.

August 01-28-09 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
What makes you think and elderly can see properly in a HD video? You really believe they can see the hair sticking out of the guys nose? Come one.. As long as they can see something its damb good. :rotfl:

This has absolutely nothing to do with HDTV Wolfehunter. Regardless of whether a digital signal is high res or low res, both are unwatchable when every few seconds the sound cuts out and the picture freezes often long enough go to the loss of signal blue screen.

A weak TV broadcast signal is generally what causes that in this situation and it is the norm out in the country where these folks live. Now with an analog signal the picture might be a bit distorted and snowy but that is still a lot more watchable than a silent blue screen.

So I am hopeful that Zachstars recommendation will pan out better than the testing i've done down at the school. They have a pretty good view to the southwest which is where I figure I can pick up the Bangor station(s). I figure i can get the whole thing mounted, cabled and pointed in an hour or so once warmer weather comes.

August 01-28-09 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Tell her to get Direct TV or Dish Network.

Then she can see more of the action. :P

Dont accept hooking up analog cable to a HD TV. It is just silly when the Sat companies are offering better rates for all digital and HD packages.

Nah these people are dirt poor, they are lucky to have electricity.

Zachstar 01-28-09 10:16 PM

The days of using badly built TV antennas are over. You cant just throw up a coat hanger to watch the Olympics or a wire up to watch late night.

However, There are plenty of GREAT ways to pull in the signal. The silver sensor is perfect for urban areas where you want to avoid ghosting (The sensor gets its signals in a narrow field of view)

For the rural communities there is this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw

Those who build it right are reporting GREAT results with it. And its cheap and rugged enough to put outside. The higher you get the WAY better signal you get in rural communities where the problem is more along the lines of the tower being just over the horizon rather than signal strength.

Edit: Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GML5agZhWBk

Now I think there is an error in the TV when it reports so many channels. But if you live in the areas around the 5-7 mega cities you can easily expect 30-40 channels. PBS alone has 4.

breadcatcher101 01-28-09 10:20 PM

I don't feel the goverment should be paying for the converters. Next thing they will be telling you who to watch or listen to on the radio.

Hmmm...

Why does "Rush" pop into my mind? Haven't heard those guys play in years!

Zachstar 01-28-09 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Tell her to get Direct TV or Dish Network.

Then she can see more of the action. :P

Dont accept hooking up analog cable to a HD TV. It is just silly when the Sat companies are offering better rates for all digital and HD packages.

Nah these people are dirt poor, they are lucky to have electricity.

I was speaking of the guy's mother in law.

Zachstar 01-28-09 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by breadcatcher101
I don't feel the goverment should be paying for the converters. Next thing they will be telling you who to watch or listen to on the radio.

Hmmm...

Why does "Rush" pop into my mind? Haven't heard those guys play in years!

If they did not there would be chaos. I don't feel 2 was warranted but atleast 1 had to be done. And besides. Just to let people watch far more PBS makes it worth the money spent.

August 01-28-09 10:49 PM

That is pretty cool Zachstar. Thanks for sharing.

Zachstar 01-29-09 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by August
That is pretty cool Zachstar. Thanks for sharing.

If you build it. Please let us know of your results!

I am very thankful for the process which led to that antenna. It is giving the poor a chance to watch more than one chan of PBS. If more watched PBS these days. Instead of stopping when you hit 6. Things would be alot better and people would be far more educated.

August 01-29-09 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
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Originally Posted by August
That is pretty cool Zachstar. Thanks for sharing.

If you build it. Please let us know of your results!

I am very thankful for the process which led to that antenna. It is giving the poor a chance to watch more than one chan of PBS. If more watched PBS these days. Instead of stopping when you hit 6. Things would be alot better and people would be far more educated.

You mean I'm giving the old man 5 more PBS channels with their leftist propagan,...er "news" programs to bitch about? :hmm: Hmmmm, I need to rethink this whole idea. :D

XabbaRus 01-29-09 08:42 AM

How long has digital been on the go in the US.

Over here in the UK I have had a digital receiver since 2002 and I think most people have a digital tv or digi box and some counties are digital only.

I can't believe anyone would want to delay it.

AVGWarhawk 01-29-09 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by breadcatcher101
I don't feel the goverment should be paying for the converters. Next thing they will be telling you who to watch or listen to on the radio.

Hmmm...

Why does "Rush" pop into my mind? Haven't heard those guys play in years!

Well, was it not the government that dictated in 2005 that this should happen? If so, they should have to help with converter boxes IMO. This additional expense above and beyond the normal should be handled by the government.

breadcatcher101 01-29-09 09:24 AM

Back when TV first came on the scene we, not the goverment bought the equipment needed, not the goverment. Same with radio. It is not the job of goverment to supply these type services.

You and I are just going to disagree with this.

Wolfehunter 01-29-09 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
The days of using badly built TV antennas are over. You cant just throw up a coat hanger to watch the Olympics or a wire up to watch late night.

However, There are plenty of GREAT ways to pull in the signal. The silver sensor is perfect for urban areas where you want to avoid ghosting (The sensor gets its signals in a narrow field of view)

For the rural communities there is this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw

Those who build it right are reporting GREAT results with it. And its cheap and rugged enough to put outside. The higher you get the WAY better signal you get in rural communities where the problem is more along the lines of the tower being just over the horizon rather than signal strength.

Edit: Check this video out!

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCI0028.jpg

Now I think there is an error in the TV when it reports so many channels. But if you live in the areas around the 5-7 mega cities you can easily expect 30-40 channels. PBS alone has 4.

I'm going to give this a try... I'm too curious. Heading for the dollar store heehehe.:up:

Ok I built this antenna.

Good news It works.

Bad news Not as good as my RCA one like in the video.

Lol it was fun though.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCI0028.jpg

If I place this baby outside then I'm sure I'd get better images... lol


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