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August 01-23-09 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mengle
that's what i mean, its not the U.S or firearms, shoot,war games and movies or whatever
some people are just verry depressed, dissapointed and angry on the society

And why not. People today have enormous amounts of negative information constantly shoved in their faces (now in high definition!) while at the same time are much more isolated socially.

100 years ago people knew everyone who lived in their neighborhood. That has become rare now and I think such incidents are a byproduct.

You managed to wrap the essence of the problem very nicely..:up:

Happy Times! It's good to see you back man!

Happy Times 01-23-09 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by mengle
that's what i mean, its not the U.S or firearms, shoot,war games and movies or whatever
some people are just verry depressed, dissapointed and angry on the society

And why not. People today have enormous amounts of negative information constantly shoved in their faces (now in high definition!) while at the same time are much more isolated socially.

100 years ago people knew everyone who lived in their neighborhood. That has become rare now and I think such incidents are a byproduct.

You managed to wrap the essence of the problem very nicely..:up:

Happy Times! It's good to see you back man!

Thanks! :) When i took my winter & christmas vacation, i also took time off the internet, television and papers. I went to Thailand and didnt even keep close track what was happening in Bangkok. :lol: I continued my vacation in Finland, my friends cottage, so im pretty relaxed now..:D

antikristuseke 01-23-09 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by mengle
that's what i mean, its not the U.S or firearms, shoot,war games and movies or whatever
some people are just verry depressed, dissapointed and angry on the society

And why not. People today have enormous amounts of negative information constantly shoved in their faces (now in high definition!) while at the same time are much more isolated socially.

100 years ago people knew everyone who lived in their neighborhood. That has become rare now and I think such incidents are a byproduct.

That and there are a lot more people now so there are bound to be more unstable whackjobs who do this kind of things.

August 01-23-09 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke
That and there are a lot more people now so there are bound to be more unstable whackjobs who do this kind of things.

Yep. More whackjobs, more victims, more opportunities, and a more isolated social environment.

Deamon 01-24-09 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
Question is, why do these attacks happen in the first place?

Because of antidepressants!

I heard that in EVERY case of school masacres in the US, the killers were on a certain antidepressants. This antidepressants in combination with certain circumstances are known to let some people go berserk.

But the opportunists just blame the ego shooters for everything.

Onkel Neal 01-24-09 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by mengle
that's what i mean, its not the U.S or firearms, shoot,war games and movies or whatever
some people are just verry depressed, dissapointed and angry on the society

And why not. People today have enormous amounts of negative information constantly shoved in their faces (now in high definition!) while at the same time are much more isolated socially.

100 years ago people knew everyone who lived in their neighborhood. That has become rare now and I think such incidents are a byproduct.

You managed to wrap the essence of the problem very nicely..:up:

Happy Times! It's good to see you back man!





Thanks! :) When i took my winter & christmas vacation, i also took time off the internet, television and papers. I went to Thailand and didnt even keep close track what was happening in Bangkok. :lol: I continued my vacation in Finland, my friends cottage, so im pretty relaxed now..:D

Pictures! In a different thread, of course :)

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OneToughHerring 01-24-09 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deamon
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Question is, why do these attacks happen in the first place?

Because of antidepressants!

I heard that in EVERY case of school masacres in the US, the killers were on a certain antidepressants. This antidepressants in combination with certain circumstances are known to let some people go berserk.

But the opportunists just blame the ego shooters for everything.

Yea. I'm not a big supporter of giving that type of medication especially to young kids. If they're not messed up before, after becoming hooked on those chemicals they will be messed up.

Having said that I know that some people are violent almost by nature, some might have a bad childhood or something and can be 'saved' and helped to live a normal life. The ones who can't be cured, not sure what should be done about those. Maybe some kind of humane prison for the rest of their lives.

mengle 01-24-09 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by antikristuseke
That and there are a lot more people now so there are bound to be more unstable whackjobs who do this kind of things.

Yep. More whackjobs, more victims, more opportunities, and a more isolated social environment.

:yep: yep,
And today, some dokters and lawyers asking the quiestion for the first time, should we some of those who can commit horrible things in de future,
not put saveley in institutes to prevent this. and were they can be cured more or less.
And thats a verry delicate situation to discuss, put someone behind bars before he actually can commit a crime.
Not forget more people kill them self every day because they are desperate and a few put innocents with them in the dead, in this case the man dident die, his job wasn't finished, he was on his way to another place to kill some more with an axe.

August 01-24-09 11:09 AM

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:yep: yep,
And today, some dokters and lawyers asking the quiestion for the first time, should we some of those who can commit horrible things in de future,

I don't buy the anti-depressant argument Mengle. People have been committing these horrible crimes long before Prozac and such were invented.

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And thats a verry delicate situation to discuss, put someone behind bars before he actually can commit a crime.
Very delicate to say the least. If we start committing people based on what they might do that reasoning could be applied to anyone at any time and i'll bet it still wouldn't stop these killings.

RickC Sniper 01-24-09 02:57 PM

The fact that a person is on behavioral medications suggests he/she had a mental health issue in the first place. Sometimes medications work, sometimes they make things worse I think.

The way we treat our most helpless (small children) is a reflection of our society. I have little enthusiasm for our future. This is not just a USA problem.

Dowly 01-24-09 03:00 PM

Stab the wanker's balls off, suffocate, drown, burn, beat, shoot, hang, **** him alive! Nothing less that arsehole deserves.

mengle 01-24-09 03:29 PM

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Stab the wanker's balls off, suffocate, drown, burn, beat, shoot, hang, **** him alive! Nothing less that arsehole deserves.

yes of course 100%
but that kind of stuf i hear all the time in Belgium, that's why i started this thread to share my sadness with people who see this from a distance, becouse childmurder is the worst thing a human can do It makes no differents if its in the USA, RUSSIA or CHINA, until it hapens not far from your city than you have a horrible feeling and deep shame.
We must give this a place and i'm glad that i could have shared this here

OneToughHerring 01-24-09 03:47 PM

I read that the killer had painted his face like Joker and committed this act pretty much one year after Heath Ledger's death. So I guess there is a link with pop culture and IRL murders.

mengle 01-24-09 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
I read that the killer had painted his face like Joker and committed this act pretty much one year after Heath Ledger's death. So I guess there is a link with pop culture and IRL murders.

Yep :yep:
and that's were i was afread of that they could blame the movies and the games,
glad that this person is not a gamer and had no firearms

OneToughHerring 01-24-09 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mengle
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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
I read that the killer had painted his face like Joker and committed this act pretty much one year after Heath Ledger's death. So I guess there is a link with pop culture and IRL murders.

Yep :yep:
and that's were i was afread of that they could blame the movies and the games,
glad that this person is not a gamer and had no firearms

Yea well, in Norway they just had a case where a cop had shot his wife and himself. In Finland an ex-cop and a former Olympic shooter shot his wife. So plenty of those cases around too.


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