Order placed, pickup on Friday!:yeah: Got it for 120 Australian Dollars.:yep:

Great buy!

The Kuma is still a great CPU the 65nm process is a bit dated but that is still a Phenom 1 core. You will get a crap ton of performance out of it.

I'm paying for a Tri Core and its rather high price just for 45nm just to be able to last 6 months or so longer than a Kuma. It bloated by build costs to over 500 USD

This is confusing, I just picked up an Athlon X2 7750 Kuma Black edition marked as 2.7ghz, the one I currently have is an X2 Athlon 6000 marked as 3.1ghz and overclocked to 3.25ghz, which one is faster??:-? did I just make a blunder, and bought a slower chip??:hmmm:
Edit: Ahh a little research, seems it's quite a bit faster and runs cooler:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/43...z-vs-x2-2.html

I'm guessing you purchased a slower chip but the new set you have might be able to clock much higher than your 6000.

Yeh I'm not 100% up to all the jargon on this stuff, depends also on things like cache, the 6000 is 1mb L2, I assume the 7750 is the same, I just assumed the 7750 would be faster than a 6000!!:hmmm:

These specs alone should say it is faster than your 6000:up:

I've got it installed and quite impressed, though I had to change the bios settings (ram etc) to get the best performance, had the computer bios reset a few times in the process!!:yep: To be able to push the CPU to give good performance I had to lower the ram speed, mainly the 2T Mode from Disabled (1T) to enabled, it is good Kingston ram but pushing the FSB from 200mhz to 238mhz has it's downside, wish I could change the multiplier (13.5) instead but fail to find how! The old 3D mark 06 bench was 8851, it's now 9410, so quite an improvement, some CPU-Z reports, note the DRAM Frequency from 400 to 476mhz:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ehk/CPU-Z1.jpg http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ehk/CPU-Z2.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ehk/CPU-Z3.jpg
Funny that the 800mhz ram shows as 400mhz but apparently normal!:hmmm:
Comments welcome.:salute:

Edit: I just checked the bios & think I can change the multiplier, mabe I should change to 15???:hmmm:

Bottom line, is it faster than the 6000+ you replaced?

Yes quite a lot, from index of 8851 to 9410.:yeah:
I did try a combination of different multipliers but 13.5 is best:
238mhz X 13.5 - 9410 Ram 2T
200mhz X 16.0 - 9260 Ram 1T
222mhz X 14.5 - 9393 Ram 2T
228mhz X 14.0 - 9279 Ram 2T
Pushing higher on any above I have to reset the bios.:oops:
I did try 247mhz X 13.0 but had to reset.:doh:
Overall, very happy.:yep:

In the end, that is all that matters...you are happy with the results. :up:

Pushing a 65nm to 3.2 is no small feat, I am QUITE impressed! Congrats!

Just keep an eye on the cooling and keep it clean. That is ALOT of heat that has to be pumped away and if it builds up the chip will automatically lower as far as 100mhz and if that does not work will trip the power supply (If its like my old Intel)

The good news is on games like E:TW that rely on being able to get some strength out of the CPU you will see quite a bit of performance gain.

I'm going with a tri core 45nm mainly to be able to overclock with less heat. Thus I respect those who do it at the 65nm range.

Thanks Zachstar, the cpu has a huge heat pipe cooler & runs between 32 & 37 degrees C, Far Cry 2 runs a breeze, just ordered Turok, it's coop so will be interesting to see how it goes on a LAN link up!!:DL
Sounds great, a little pricey for me, if you have 3Dmark06 would be interesting to see your results, and the operating temperature!:03: