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De Gaulle...hmm he was a **** IMHO. He had a grudge against the UK from the war.

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

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I have no problem with Europe as a trading bloc with harmonised technical standards etc to make it easier to sell a product across Europe but the whole thing is getting too political and going as far as wanting to be able to dictate the tax rates set by individual governments.

You're kidding right ? There are a certain number of issue were the european commission has no say over the national bodies. One of those issues is tax rates.
How come we in italy have 20% VAT, you on the contrary have 17.5%, the germans had 16% and decided to increase it to 19 or 20%.(without the uintervention of the european commission). The spanish have a different VAT and so on. Another issue where the EC has no say is over defense and school policies.
So lets stop pretending thast the EU is some kind of gigantic dictatorship that will engulf all of the european nation states.

Maybe but they are pushing to get more involved in setting tax rates.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I agree....and am definitely a subscriber to the 'Britain is an island race' lobby.

Lets see, in the seventies Britain and the pound were saved by the IMF otherwise it would have gone into default. What makes you think that such a situation won't ever happen again ? And do you honestly believe that the IMF would come to your rescue again ? :roll:
Just accept the fact that you are part of the EU and ditch the pound. It serves you no good.

Oh please.......Italy with it's past financial dilemnas is probably the last country in Europe to preach about fiscal policy to any other European nation.

How often have the Italian government needed assistance to sort out spiralling inflation levels....levels that I doubt have ever been matched in Europe since the last war.

In fact, when is the last time an Italian government remained in power long enough to sort out financial corruption and internal affairs.

Britain is an island, always will be.....I'm sure trade between us and mainland Europe will carry on regardless of EU affiliatein....simply because it is beneficial to both parties.

As for De Gaulle.....he obviously suffered from problems with memory retention.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by goldorak

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I agree....and am definitely a subscriber to the 'Britain is an island race' lobby.

Could not have put it better myself Jim.

OH and as for De Gualle blocking the UK's entry into the EEC beause he thought there was not the political will and they would obstruct things, well there was more to it than that...personal issues.

The one thing I will say in De Gualles favour and that is he wouldn't like the way the EU is heading towards a federalist state as he was vehemently against that.

Oh and one more thing.

Italy has a crook of a PM who has used parliament to block and quash trials of his business deals, your state airline has failed. I can't remember when but I'm sure Fiat had to be bailed out too.

Out politicians may not be lilly white but Berlusconi is more like a Russian politician than those in the rest of western europe....