And the buck passing blame game goes on!:roll:

http://news.smh.com.au/national/red-...1204-6r5x.html

That is, indeed, what I meant, and I'm sorry for not making the point clearer.

@Kurtz


That's a difficult statement to quantify, for me. In the U.S, pupils are produced by parents and teachers are produced by state-influenced educational systems. In either system, teachers educate pupils. I know little about the English educational system so I cannot offer any kind of useful perspective or opinion about it.

Without speaking out of my place, I don't see how a little educational freedom could hurt, though.

Whatever points you might disagree with, and whatever your reasons for doing so, we can certainly agree that each of us knows what is best for our children and should have the freedom to decide where they are educated. Not only would it be rare for us to fail more spectacularly than the public education system does most of the time in our respective nations, but even if we did fail, it should be our burden to bear, not society's as a whole.

Just as there is no true communism, there is no true egalitarianism. People are not equal, and they never will be so long as nature, resources, and energy exsist. The only equalizer is liberty. I may not do as well as another who is more gifted, but in a free society I can do my best.

Education is the cornerstone of any society, and we should carefully consider who controls it.

edit- here is a piece by John Stossel, who, despite his hit-you-over-the -head journalistic tone, and unpopularity with the media, hits the nail right on the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw

You may like him and you may not, and he does tend to highlight examples that support his beliefs, just as the rest of the media does, but his facts are correct based on the research I have done. Education is a problem in the U.S., and we all know it, Stossel shows what the problems really are.

Without speaking out of my place, I don't see how a little educational freedom could hurt, though.

Whatever points you might disagree with, and whatever your reasons for doing so, we can certainly agree that each of us knows what is best for our children and should have the freedom to decide where they are educated. Not only would it be rare for us to fail more spectacularly than the public education system does most of the time in our respective nations, but even if we did fail, it should be our burden to bear, not society's as a whole.

Just as there is no true communism, there is no true egalitarianism. People are not equal, and they never will be so long as nature, resources, and energy exsist. The only equalizer is liberty. I may not do as well as another who is more gifted, but in a free society I can do my best.

Education is the cornerstone of any society, and we should carefully consider who controls it.

edit- here is a piece by John Stossel, who, despite his hit-you-over-the -head journalistic tone, and unpopularity with the media, hits the nail right on the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw

You may like him and you may not, and he does tend to highlight examples that support his beliefs, just as the rest of the media does, but his facts are correct based on the research I have done. Education is a problem in the U.S., and we all know it, Stossel shows what the problems really are.[/quote]

Just for the record, we home ed our daughter, (our 2 sons had a state education) because we had had enough of state interfence in schools. So far it's going really well. Of course not veryone can do that as it means you have to live on salary.

Thanks for the link I'm at work but I'll watch as soon as I can.