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Originally Posted by ppk

Why the first one? I don't see why one wouldn't attack lone merchants whatever the weather. Use the S-Gerat for ranging when you're in a storm, and sink them.. Just make sure there isn't anyone else around to hear you :P ...and please post your text bigger next time?

The reason is that in the bad weather you can easily loose visual contact with a ship, especially if it goes faster then your boat. You can find it only surfacing, approaching to a very close range: 400 m. and when you approach there is strong possibility for you to receive several shells to your hull after spring 1941. Very disappointing! (And dangerous for your future fights).

Sledgehammer427

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6. Never fight with more then one destroyer.
to me...
thats like telling an infant not to crap itself....

Maybe you are cool enough to fight with the three or four DDs, but I’m not. Amazingly in my experience the most breakable damage to my Boot was made not by wasserbombs, but by crashes with destroyers. Once it happened when I being hunted tried to fire torp at one, and estimating speed, bowangele etc , suddenly heard another approaching to a death distance – alamtauchen, desperate turn 50 degrees backboard – grinding sound of two hulls crashing one another, my result was: right eclectic machine destroyed, right and left diesels destroyed, both periscopes destroyed 2 000 miles to Loriant from Cape Verde…

meduza

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Originally Posted by Alex Schtolz
5. Never attack convoys on calm seas at daytime (wind speed less then 4 m/s). Otherwise your periscope will be definitely detected. Wait for the dusk to come.

I disagree. Keep your periscope very low and exposed for a short time and you won't be detected. Going slow helps.

Possible. Accept. But one small addition: attack in case of calm almost windless weather since the range 3000 – 2000 meters.
I was influences by SH III Manual advice to fire torps since the range no more, better less then 1 000 meters. Maybe all my daytime detection troubles came from my Manual instructed behavior. Today I attacked passenger ship and Fuji Class since the range of 2 000 m. 3 torpedoes hit the targets, escort DDs began to chase me kilometers away from my location.

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Originally Posted by ppk
Why the first one? I don't see why one wouldn't attack lone merchants whatever the weather. Use the S-Gerat for ranging when you're in a storm, and sink them.. Just make sure there isn't anyone else around to hear you :P ...and please post your text bigger next time?

The reason is that in the bad weather you can easily loose visual contact with a ship, especially if it goes faster then your boat. You can find it only surfacing, approaching to a very close range: 400 m. and when you approach there is strong possibility for you to receive several shells to your hull after spring 1941. Very disappointing! (And dangerous for your future fights).

It's true you shouldn't be racing on the surface trying to find a target when in a storm. However, if there is a storm you're probably going to be below the surface hunting for contacts with the hydrophones. If you do find something, the storm is no excuse to let it get away if you are close enough to intercept. Other factors (damage, batteries, etc) can however make you reconsider that. Like I said, you can use the S-Gerat to get accurate ranging information in low visibility and pretty much fire your eels without raising the periscope (almost).