Defintely because of Bush. McCain should have been president at 9/11, he would have been a very good president then. I feel sorry for him.

And, before I forget, 2nd reason: because of Obama.

And the 3rd reason would be that the american people voted for Obama;)

Hammer > nail = direct hit.

The financial-economic brreakdown, caused by the economics of the bush years, played into Obama'S hand. without that timing, the race would have been much closer. Data shows that the deciding issues was not Iraq or anything, but economy. MacCain also lost due to his age - he was not able to motivate the many young and first-time voters, in this group, Obama swept the floor with McCain.

They had a biography of Obama on TV right now. Much I did not know. I'm impressed by the thoroughness and rocksolid prepartion and planning that he has shown from his first day on in the democratic party. This is very different to the past 8 years, and this sense of thoroughness will do America very, very good service, since so much mess was created by the lack of it.

But the negative heritage he takes over from Bush is monumental. But he seem to be fully aware of it, having no illusions about it. That is good.

Dont lump me into that.

There was a difference of about 7 million in a country of over 300 million.

And the reason that McCain lost was that even his own base could stand him....he was too liberal leaning himself definately the wrong man to pick.

If we had a Romney in there it would have been different.

Im kinda glad my part y lost...hopefully they will get the message to stop trying to ignore their roots.....They keep trying to appease the left and they will lose all of us supporters on the right.

Somebody onthe news said it best...teh Democrat voters were excited to vote. The Republican voters held their noses and were forced to vote. Most didnt even bother.

Oh well...welkome to Amerika Comrade. :shifty:

Correction: Caused in large parts by the Democratic Congress, especially people like Barney Frank, who was lying his butt off when it came to Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae.

Good old Barney, two months prior to the collapse he stated the Feddie Mac and Fanny Mae were in good shape. Dump you money in. What a piece of work he is. :down:

I love selective amnesia!

Starting with the Carter administration, furthered by the Clinton administration, and carried on by the Bush(s) administration.

Yep. Carter and Clinton through Community Reinvestmant. In regards to Bush it was a classic example of a Republican trying to outdo the Democrats by acting like a Democrat. "Compassionate" conservatism is moderately applied Democrat Party politics. And a complete failure when applied.

Sorry, but I think it took a b it longer time to create that critical mass that finally exploded. the roots go back several years, it were Republicans in the main who used this time to push for even more disregulation, the crisis is a result of the design of the system, since it allows and encourages that kind of behavior that led to it's collapse. So please, no socialistic consipration theories here.

I guess you totally missed the 3 previous posts. ;)

The roots? I admit to that. Yea.. but the Congress had the chance, knowledge and the means to prevent or at least warn about it. Franks willingly lied when he reported that the institutions in question are just doing fine. Not a socialist conspiracy theory. Cold hard fact.



Socialist conspiracy theories.. my a$$..

Why yes, several years....how about as far back as the Clinton administration. :shifty: Yes, they pushed for deregulation but not two years ago McCain said that these two lenders needed to be regulated. Barney Frank stood in the way and said all is well with these lenders. Sorry Sky, it was poor management at all levels on both sides. Not to mention Barney was having an affair with a man on the board of Fanny Mae. So, was there some collusion? I betting yes.