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Sailor Steve 10-15-08 12:32 PM

Here is the information I told you about in the PM.

First is an old graph I have. It's from a game, but I think the guy who made it had good information, as it is similar to some others I have seen in books.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ationgraph.jpg


This one is from an old aircraft carrier. Sorry to say I don't remember which one.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../Engine9-1.jpg

FIREWALL 10-15-08 12:32 PM

@ PT Sounds good. :up: I'd like to try it out when you got it ready. :yep:

It's a pain when a large tanker handles and performs like an elco PT. :damn:

Ping Panther 10-15-08 01:20 PM

And just when you would figure that the capacity for more RL mods in SH3 has come full circle. This one sounds especially very interesting! :yep: :up:

Has anyone come up with the data regarding turning radius measurements for u-boats? I remember that being a question a while ago. :hmm:

nikbear 10-15-08 01:53 PM

If this could be safely done PT,it would be outstanding:up:

Sag75 10-15-08 05:18 PM

Waiting to test it, Sir... :up: !!


about the U-boat turning, it's was me.. but nobody answered....

Madox58 10-15-08 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
I won't release as a mod cos I'm sure gwx crew will say that the mod break things, and I'm tired of discussing.

:up:

Just when I think you may be logical?
You go and post things like this.
:nope:

Do what you want, how you want, when you want.
To use your phrase?
I'm tired of discussing.

But don't you DARE say it's GWX compatable!!
You have asked for my help in the past,
then insulted me.
All by PM's.

I've kept that between you and I till now.
But you have opened the
'Can of Worms'
Mate!!

No more Mr. Nice Guy here!!

Seek your Glory all you want.
But do not push me further!!

Sag75 10-15-08 05:50 PM

Anyway, these kind of modifications may change a lot of DD behaviours during an attack...

just think, they normally can approach you at 25kts and decrease to 11kts in few seconds when start pinging at 1000m, BUT with these (yet hypothetical) changes they probably will pass over you at 30kts.. So these changes MIGHT make their attacks impossible! (in other words, we may need to setup the AI parameters setting during the attack) ..but these are my speculations.. we need to test and see..

An other in game absurd behaviour is the aircraft extreme climbing ability!

onelifecrisis 10-15-08 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force
Task Force is getting confused here?:88) What just happened???????????

You really want to know?

Mod for a while... long enough so you know more about modding than PT (shouldn't take long) then release a mod. Wait for PT to decide to "improve" it. He'll then PM you asking how to do this and that, and you'll experience first hand the frustration of attempting to make him understand the answers (only for him to forget them two weeks later). You'll watch as he carelessly breaks everything you've worked so hard to create. You'll marvel at his lackadaisical responses to your attempts to help him avoid bugs and understand relationships between variables. You'll give up on him and hope he just stops asking you questions, but he won't.

Of course, you won't speak these thoughts to him if you can help it, and you won't say anything of it "in public".

And then he'll make an unnecessary comment about/to you "in public" and then you'll know what just happened.

Erich dem Roten 10-15-08 07:24 PM

:oops:

I wasn't trying to start a fight between people :\

I have a great and genuine respect for all the modders out there.

Madox58 10-15-08 07:55 PM

You started nothing Mate.
Most of the Modders here exchange information, advice, time,
and thoughts.

And Most do it with respect towards one another.

We even help each other when we can.

But when a Rouge starts trouble with self serveing statements?
And launches needless attacks on any one modder or team?

They get what they deserve.

PT, As I told you by PM.

I turn my back on you!!
:nope:

You want things Public?
You got it!!

Madox58 10-15-08 08:11 PM

Grow up Son.
:nope:

Everyone mods as they wish,
As it should be.

But take a swing at me in Public?
After MANY behind the scene exchanges?
Expect a full out Arse whooping!!

In Public!!
And I'll not play the 'Beat around the Bush' crap.

Madox58 10-15-08 08:24 PM

If you read most of the posts?
They are constructive and have a point.

Perhaps you should study that fact
And refrain from just pushing up your post count
with needless posts like the above?
:hmm:

Nah!!
That makes to much sense!!!
;)

Philipp_Thomsen 10-15-08 08:59 PM

I won't reply to any of the accusations made by Privateer or OLC, cos I'm guilty.

They are right, I'm a pain in the nuts.

I won't try to excuse myself telling that I have a condition, or that I don't know enough english and sometimes I don't sound like I wanted, like I said to Privateer via PM. He's right, it's not a valid excuse cos it can be avoyded, if you THINK TWICE about what you're typing, before sending.

I'm a little bit impulsive. I just type what's on my mind, very fast, and send. I don't stop to judge it the person on the other side would like to read the bunch of crap I'm writing, I'm just too selfish I guess.

I do recon I should change that.
I do recon that I was a lot worse in this aspect when I first joined this community. I'm getting better, but still suck badly in the "kindness" aspect. People in this community are very very kind to one another, and I envy that. I'm trying to learn from that, it's not on my nature, I figure.

Sorry Privateer, for the lack of respect when I said about gwx crew telling my mods are imcompatible. I guess I heard it too much on the past and got sick of it, cos every time I read something like that, makes me want to stop modding. But not becouse I think you guys are wrong, my mods DO break stuff. I personally don't care if it breaks stuff, cos I'm contantly fixing the game while I'm playing, fixing things that I break myself. When I create something that makes the game better, I LOVE to share with this wonderful community and read back feedbacks and get to understand what people think of it, their ideas and how to make it better. And sometimes I felt like a threat from you guys, thinking that you were telling those things just to kill my fun, just to tell everybody "this mod sucks, don't use it". But that's just the way I felt, and it was not your fault. You just spoke the truth, IT DOES BREAK STUFF!

I learned from that, from now on I'm telling before hand what the mod does and what it breaks, in details, so people are aware of what their using. I won't dare ever saying again that my mods are GWX's compatible, cos they will never be. Why? Simple... I'm too lazy of testing it to death to make it bullet proof. I just do it, if looks good? Great! It's done. Some people might think like me, but the important is to RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T! That's what I need to learn.

I'm here to ask apology in public to Privateer, OLC and Kpt Lehnmann, for the bitch I've been since we first spoke.

I now intend to respect you guys as I always should have done.
Also, I now intend to keep things to myself, cos everytime I write something I make somebody pissed off. Until I learn how to talk, I'll just shut up.

I just wish I could have been there, in the subsim meeting, so I could sit with you guys, chat and laugh while drinking a beer, so you could see I'm not the devil everybody pictures. I just don't know whatta hell happens to me here in the internet.

Again, sorry.

Madox58 10-15-08 10:05 PM

Son,
You just keep giveing excusses.
:nope:
When PM's fail,
you post the exact same stuff you PM'ed to me a few
weeks ago!!

And then POSTED the gwx stuff in this thread!
:roll:

Make up your mind.
Are you trying to garner sympathy from the standard user?
Or hopeing to mend the bridges you have burnt behind you?
:hmm:

Philipp_Thomsen 10-15-08 10:28 PM

What was broken unfortunally is broken.
I asked apology cos I think it's the right thing to do, as I recon I was wrong.
I'm not trying anything, I just felt like I needed to do this.
I know you won't just say "hey, chill, I forgive you, come and give me a hug".
Nobody would.
But that doesn't mean I shouldn't apologize for all the sh!t I said and done.
Respect is something that takes years to build, and one second to destroy.


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