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Letum 10-10-08 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.

I agree with this statement 100%:yep:


Well, there is a little shade of gray here.
The bank is losing out because it now has people trespassing on it's property
without getting any money from it.

Of course, no one cares about the bank's plight because it is big and has money...
...I don't care about the bank either, but it is a valid point of view if someone does.

AVGWarhawk 10-10-08 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum
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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.

I agree with this statement 100%:yep:

Well, there is a little shade of gray here.
The bank is losing out because it now has people trespassing on it's property
without getting any money from it.

Of course, no one cares about the bank's plight because it is big and has money...
...I don't care about the bank either, but it is a valid point of view if someone does.

Yes, there is a shade of gray. One would hope that those caught in this situation would approach the bank, squeeze out the current mortgage holder who defaulted and assume the loan themselves. It might take some doing but the bank might be amicable to this.

1480 10-10-08 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
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Originally Posted by Letum
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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.

I agree with this statement 100%:yep:

Well, there is a little shade of gray here.
The bank is losing out because it now has people trespassing on it's property
without getting any money from it.

Of course, no one cares about the bank's plight because it is big and has money...
...I don't care about the bank either, but it is a valid point of view if someone does.

Yes, there is a shade of gray. One would hope that those caught in this situation would approach the bank, squeeze out the current mortgage holder who defaulted and assume the loan themselves. It might take some doing but the bank might be amicable to this.

The most common sense approach I have heard on this situation. I can't see the banks become landlords all of sudden since they are not set up for this. I think we would just see more of the same if you force banks into something they are not equipped to handle.

Flamingboat 10-10-08 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 1480
Knock knock, someone call for me? :lol:


Lets see, Tom Dart is an elected politician. A lawyer by trade who was a state senator for a year and a state rep for 5 terms before he ran for sheriff. This is after he ran unsuccessfully for the Treasurer's office.

He is not, repeat not, a sworn peace officer in the state of Illinois. He never went through the 40 hour required course for firearms as established by state law. He did not pass any tests that are required to be certified as a peace officer in Illinois.

So by very definition, he is an elected official and never was a "real law enforcement officer" or ever will be.


As for being compared to a nazi, I've been called worse things . Never been suspended, have earned 60 department awards, and three citizen group awards for my actions. I will always be pro police because that is all I've ever done my entire adult life and am proud of who I am. I just mention this not to puff up my chest, but just to give a little perspective of what I am.

Just remember, as much as you hate us, we still come when you call.....

Thank you for proving my point. He isn't a real law enforcement officer, no wonder he didn't blindly and zealously toss those good for nothings in the street. This explains why he showed some sense of decency. Someone needs to make sure people who hold this position get proper indoctrination so they stop viewing people as human and instead see them as the criminals they are.

You're there when I call? Get over yourself, having a good insurace policy and a big bench press provides safety, not some cop somewhere writing a ticket. Just an FYI, my dad is now a police chief. He got me into lifting weights, why would I call some cop who is half my size. Calling the police for help these days results in more problems than it solves. I grew up around cops in the 1980's. They don't help anyone, those are BS PR lines they use in interviews. They get excited over beating up someone or wrecking their police cars. I got sick listening to story after story growing up about how they "trashed" someones apartment serving a warrant or how far they threw some niggger down some stairs. Now I am not loving the criminal per se, I have no love for rapists and child molesters. The thing you have to look at is, what constitutes being a "criminal" these days? 99% of the time it's bull**** stuff, fines, court orders, FTA's, tickets, suspensions. In this country we treat Joe Blow who did something minor like he is Charles Manson. The behavior of the police insures a steady stream of people who hate the police. I know it's cliche, but cops were either the bully in highschool or the person that got bullied. I saw it with my own eyes most of my life. My dad ran the academy as well. He said do you know "so and so"? I said I did and that we used to make him cry picking on him when we were 14. He said "he is in my academy and he is a good kid". I laughed my ass off, somone doesn't want to get picked on anymore.

This is the part where you retort with a "bad apple response, or isolated incidence" line.

August 10-10-08 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.

I agree with this statement 100%:yep:

If they have paid for this months rent then I agree with you. Otherwise their being allowed to stay is pure theft.

AVGWarhawk 10-10-08 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.

I agree with this statement 100%:yep:

If they have paid for this months rent then I agree with you. Otherwise their being allowed to stay is pure theft.

I read it as the tenents have paid on time all along. The person who has his name on the mortgage has defaulted. Not the tenents. They have upheld their contractual agreement. The mortgage holder has not. So, is it theft? It is not the tenents fault, they in good faith, paid on time. The middle man dropped the ball and pockets the money. Surely, if the tenents have been paying on time they would wish to continue. I think they should approach the bank and look to aquire the load on the building. THe middle man has to come up with the money he did not pay the bank.

Skorn 10-10-08 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamingboat
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Originally Posted by 1480
Knock knock, someone call for me? :lol:


Lets see, Tom Dart is an elected politician. A lawyer by trade who was a state senator for a year and a state rep for 5 terms before he ran for sheriff. This is after he ran unsuccessfully for the Treasurer's office.

He is not, repeat not, a sworn peace officer in the state of Illinois. He never went through the 40 hour required course for firearms as established by state law. He did not pass any tests that are required to be certified as a peace officer in Illinois.

So by very definition, he is an elected official and never was a "real law enforcement officer" or ever will be.


As for being compared to a nazi, I've been called worse things . Never been suspended, have earned 60 department awards, and three citizen group awards for my actions. I will always be pro police because that is all I've ever done my entire adult life and am proud of who I am. I just mention this not to puff up my chest, but just to give a little perspective of what I am.

Just remember, as much as you hate us, we still come when you call.....

Thank you for proving my point. He isn't a real law enforcement officer, no wonder he didn't blindly and zealously toss those good for nothings in the street. This explains why he showed some sense of decency. Someone needs to make sure people who hold this position get proper indoctrination so they stop viewing people as human and instead see them as the criminals they are.

You're there when I call? Get over yourself, having a good insurace policy and a big bench press provides safety, not some cop somewhere writing a ticket. Just an FYI, my dad is now a police chief. He got me into lifting weights, why would I call some cop who is half my size. Calling the police for help these days results in more problems than it solves. I grew up around cops in the 1980's. They don't help anyone, those are BS PR lines they use in interviews. They get excited over beating up someone or wrecking their police cars. I got sick listening to story after story growing up about how they "trashed" someones apartment serving a warrant or how far they threw some niggger down some stairs. Now I am not loving the criminal per se, I have no love for rapists and child molesters. The thing you have to look at is, what constitutes being a "criminal" these days? 99% of the time it's bull**** stuff, fines, court orders, FTA's, tickets, suspensions. In this country we treat Joe Blow who did something minor like he is Charles Manson. The behavior of the police insures a steady stream of people who hate the police. I know it's cliche, but cops were either the bully in highschool or the person that got bullied. I saw it with my own eyes most of my life. My dad ran the academy as well. He said do you know "so and so"? I said I did and that we used to make him cry picking on him when we were 14. He said "he is in my academy and he is a good kid". I laughed my ass off, somone doesn't want to get picked on anymore.

This is the part where you retort with a "bad apple response, or isolated incidence" line.

Talk about gross generalizations...not even sure where to start with this one. :down:

August 10-10-08 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I read it as the tenents have paid on time all along. The person who has his name on the mortgage has defaulted. Not the tenents. They have upheld their contractual agreement. The mortgage holder has not. So, is it theft? It is not the tenents fault, they in good faith, paid on time. The middle man dropped the ball and pockets the money. Surely, if the tenents have been paying on time they would wish to continue. I think they should approach the bank and look to aquire the load on the building. THe middle man has to come up with the money he did not pay the bank.

Yeah but my point is that nobody goes from in good standing to repossession overnight. These tenants pay their rent from month to month, so at most the tenants would be being screwed out of the remainder of one months rent.

Now up here in New England most states have laws saying that the landlord, in this case the bank post repossession, have to give the tenants a months notice for eviction so maybe add another month to that, but no matter how you add it up the fact that the landlord didn't pay his mortgage is immaterial.

I do like your idea of the tenants taking over the payments though. That's something a smart banker should consider, especially in todays real estate market. Besides even if they sell the property in most cases a rental property with paying tenants is a good thing to a prospective buyer.


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