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Monica Lewinsky 09-13-08 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus
Since you don't seem to know the Legislative history of Senator Obama from your own state, your opinion lacks credibility. :nope:

He's still Fecal Matter in Illinois ... pure, worthless, dung.

SUBMAN1 09-13-08 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Sounds like a full time job :lol:
Subman, your trolls used to be somewhat more subtle :rotfl:

Are you really this dumb on what the definition of trolling is? :hmm: :yep: You attack me directly once again when I am simply responding to the subject at hand? I know you're not that bright as compared to others here, but I expect better than that. Read your statement again and compare it to mine above it, and then go educate yourself on what exactly trolling is! You will find only one real troll here, and its not me.

By the way, in case you didn't notice, both sides have their issues. On the Obama side, they are flat lies. On the McCain side, I could see where he may not have been aware exactly, so I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

Even the liberal magazine Time has said McCain is brutely honest. This means, I doubt he is lying, but possibly not as well informed as he need be for the subject he is being asked.

-S

Sailor Steve 09-13-08 09:00 PM

First, let me say that this is a very nice example of people from both sides finding it easier to just slam the other side than try to find some actual answers. It looks like Enigma could care less about the actual issues than just proving that the candidate from the other side is worthless. And SUBMAN1 comes back with the witty reply that he can show the candidate on the other side is even more worthless.

@ Mikhayl: I don't think SUBMAN1 qualifies as a troll, because as I understand it a troll just stirs up trouble, and I think SM1 really believes what he says and that he's doing the community a service by trashing the other side, much as Enigma does.

That said, Mikhayl is responding to the fact that SM1 seems to think that honest debate is something to be avoided and only ever posts with insults rather than discussions on the issues, then accuses anyone who points this out of attacking him. He then goes on to counter-attack with insults on the original's intelligence, and claims to have issues with both sides but only one of them is worthy of his 'satire'.
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By the way, in case you didn't notice, both sides have their issues. On the Obama side, they are flat lies. On the McCain side, I could see where he may not have been aware exactly, so I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
But the general conception is that you support McCain and hate Obama, and besides the occassional denial everything you say seems to support that observation.

This is why people give warnings about debating politics and religion. What we have on this thread is not a debate, or even an argument, but a feces-flinging contest of the highest order. I love a good debate, but some of you don't seem capable of engaging in one.

No honesty from either side here, yet both claim the other is lying and they're not.

UnderseaLcpl 09-13-08 09:02 PM

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...4036764700.jpg


Ok, continue!!!

Neptunus Rex 09-13-08 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
One thing is certain. Watergate does not matter. Iran-Contra-affair is of no concern. Failed wars being launched - who cares.

A Democrat's president putting his Willy where it did not belong, and trying to hide that from the public while the other party tries to parade him through the streets over that like a trophy - that is the all important issue american history is made of! Hallelujah!

Who needs real world politics? Hypocritic "values" is what we need!

"We train young men to drop fire on people - but their commanders won't allow them to write FU CK! on their aeroplane, because: it's "obscene". (Kurtz in "Apoicalyse Now")

That's why the masses stink. Intelligence eventually I only see in the single person. The greater the crowd, the more intelligence dies. Stupidity and intelligence - are social phenomenons before anything else.

Well, well, well. Look who decides to poke his head into what can surely be considered a purely American concern.

Wasn't it you who suggested that America should stick to it's own interests. Is it American conservatives that you despise or all such people. Or is it Americans in general?

I seem to recall you didn't have too high of an opinion of your own President when she was running for office.

Crawl back under that rock of yours! Judging from the news accounts in the last few years, Europeans need to be paying a liittle more attention to their own front yard before concerning themselves with the neighbor's.

NObama, NObama, NObama!

Wolfehunter 09-13-08 10:07 PM

If you all know all the parties at hand are crooks. Why not not vote any people into power? Wouldn't that screw up the whole process? Maybe that message would tell polititians people are fedup with bull lies etc.

Even in my country there are not government representatives supporting the people as a whole. Their only taking care of their friends and bankers plus rich investors.

I haven't voted in years. I won't support legal criminal organizations. AKA current Government of Canada!

Neptunus Rex 09-14-08 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
If you all know all the parties at hand are crooks. Why not not vote any people into power? Wouldn't that screw up the whole process? Maybe that message would tell polititians people are fedup with bull lies etc.

Even in my country there are not government representatives supporting the people as a whole. Their only taking care of their friends and bankers plus rich investors.

I haven't voted in years. I won't support legal criminal organizations. AKA current Government of Canada!

Oh yeah, right! President pro-tem Nancy Pelosi? I don't think so.

If you don't vote, don't bitch about the outcome or the policies that follow. If citizens can't be expected to perform their least of civil obligations, not to mention the one that requires the least amount of physical effort, then that nation has not much of a future.

And before the response arguments start, yes that includes the USA. Voter apathy is one of the biggest causes of Congressional authority abuse in the US.

NObama, NOPelosi either!

Wolfehunter 09-14-08 01:35 PM

I don't bitch. I don't vote not because I'm not participating I am. I'm making my example shown. Unfortunately others don't care or show the same ideals.

So the governments will run as is on a small minoraty voting class in the elections.

The rest of the ballets are fixed.

Frame57 09-14-08 01:37 PM

Yep! And no Feinstein and no Harry pickle puss Reid etc.... :up:

JoeCorrado 09-14-08 02:23 PM

The real Sarah Palin is getting her lipstick smeared... soon she will be totally exposed for just the simple minded pitbull that she really is, and always will be. There is no place for people like this in American Politics and Bush proved as much for all of us to understand the true choices offered in this election.

For real change, Vote Obama-Biden.

For more of the same- or worse, vote McCain-Palin

Link: The Sarah Palin Record being exposed more every day.

Frame57 09-14-08 02:27 PM

No place for this in American politics (HA ha!) Sounds like Adolph Hitler's point of view....

Thomen 09-14-08 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
The real Sarah Palin is getting her lipstick smeared... soon she will be totally exposed for just the simple minded pitbull that she really is, and always will be. There is no place for people like this in American Politics and Bush proved as much for all of us to understand the true choices offered in this election.

For real change, Vote Obama-Biden.

For more of the same- or worse, vote McCain-Palin

Link: The Sarah Palin Record being exposed more every day.

Wait.. you are asking people to vote for someone who asks a guy who sits in a wheel chair to stand up, and mocks McCain for not being able to handle a computer because of his injuries he received in the service for his country?
Mhm.. seems rather discriminatory to me, don't ya think?
What will be the change again? Oh, right.. I will have to foot your medical bill.., my capital gains taxes go up, I will probably loose my student grants ( he was not really clear on that one). What else? Oh yea, he advocates increased Federal spending. Hey, if you want him to spend more of your money thats fine and dandy, but keep your hands off my trove.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Kataki 09-14-08 03:20 PM

I do believe that Obama plans on cutting back taxes for the middle/lower class and raising it for the wealthy.


Also, I would like those who believe Obama lies to please tell me what these lies are, just curious.

Platapus 09-14-08 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Thomen] mocks McCain for not being able to handle a computer because of his injuries he received in the service for his country? /QUOTE]


I have never heard McCain claim that his injuries would prevent him from using a computer. Looking at him, I can't see how they could prevent it. John McCain does not use a computer but cause he has never had the need to use a computer. He has staff to handle that sort of stuff.

How many old guy executives are in the same boat?

I am sure that McCain could learn to use a computer if he had a need to.

Thomen 09-14-08 03:58 PM

[quote=Platapus]
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Originally Posted by Thomen
mocks McCain for not being able to handle a computer because of his injuries he received in the service for his country? /QUOTE]


I have never heard McCain claim that his injuries would prevent him from using a computer. Looking at him, I can't see how they could prevent it. John McCain does not use a computer but cause he has never had the need to use a computer. He has staff to handle that sort of stuff.

How many old guy executives are in the same boat?

I am sure that McCain could learn to use a computer if he had a need to.

Lemme see if i can find the the page again..


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