Kazuaki Shimazaki II |
08-21-08 04:25 PM |
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Originally Posted by jumpy
Perhaps so, but when that someone has a reputation as a totalitarian nut-job which precedes them through the ages, you'd expect such a 'reformed character' to show a little understanding and willingness to go a little bit further to demonstrate their good intent, instead of falling back into the old ways and habits of oppression and warmongering rhetoric.
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Actually, they tried this stuff for 15 or so years. Poland, Czech ... etc reward them by joining NATO. I can see why they are trying something else now.
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Originally Posted by Thomen
Not trying to defend Russia's threats, but it does makes some sense, if you look at it from a Russian point of view.
Base line is this: The Missile defense system basically nullifies the MAD, Mutual Agreed Destruction, that was the status quo during the cold war. Why? Because it leaves Russia and its allies (if there are some) defenseless against first strikes, and decreases their ability to strike back, if an attack should ever come out of the west. And that is, imho what all this noise is about. They see the west developing technology that would make it possible to strike with impunity.
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Such considerations were what was behind the ABM Treaty and also behind the US's objection to Cyprus gaining S-300s. Of course, when it comes to Russia ... all such calcs went out the window.
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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
What Russia doesn't consider is that we already have significant Early Warning capabilities with NORAD radars in North America and redundant space based systems.
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NORAD radars in North America, thanks to line of sight, can only see missiles as they rise very high, or bombers as they approach. Space based surveillance can spot ICBM flashes as they launch. Neither is comparable to what a high capability radar close to the Russian border can see.
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Mr. Putin, we can already see well inside your country. But if Russia is not hostile, is peaceful, and doesn't intend to conduct a nuclear first strike.......what are they worried about?
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They are worried about how reducing their options in that direction, and how that affects the balance of power.
And before you laugh, I say again, the US has actually accepted and even promoted this viewpoint with Cyprus, and that's b/w nominal NATO allies.
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